Buck Boost Xfrmrs again

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Grend

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I have just found your forum from a Google search on Buck / Boost transformers. I have had experience of using them to provide 230V from 208V but now I need to use one to buck 277V to 230V.

When boosting the voltage I from say 200V to 250V I understand that the power provided by the 50V winding is supplied by the 200V winding and increases the 200V supply current by the transformer ratio, so for a 100A load the primary must pull 50/200 x 100 = 25 A so the supply current is 100+25 = 125A IE 25kVA. I am also ok that the transformer rating need only be 50 x 100 VA = 5kVA. However, when bucking the voltage (down) I get a little confused!

Taking my example above I now have a 250V supply and need to supply a 200V 100A (different) load IE 20kVA. With a supply of 250V the current should be around 20K/250 = 80A.

The 50V winding will be wired to reduce the voltage to my load by 50V ? ok, but how does it reduce the current from 100A to 80A? I guess the
200V winding is now supplying some power to the load.

Working backwards I assume the 50V winding is passing only the 80A so in this example the transformer is 4kVA. Now 4K @ 200V is 20A so it looks like the 200V winding is providing 20A of the load. However I do feel I started with the answer and worked backwards!

Does anyone know the correct way to size a buck transformer??

Graham
 
277 is line to neutral and 230 is normally line to line

277 is line to neutral and 230 is normally line to line

Before you use a buck boost to go from 277 to 230, please make sure that your equipment that is using the 230 is needing line-neutral 230.

Since the 277 comes from a 480Y/277, the common point on the buck boost will be the neutral.
 
Correct way to size a buck boost

Correct way to size a buck boost

Use the on-line tools supplied by the manufactures.

www.us.squared.com/buckboost (great tool)

Or you can verify it by looking at the diagram after you connect the units and the amp ratings on the nameplate.

So example: if you have a 500VA - 120/240 to 12/24 being used for the buck boost
the maxium current at the boost voltage is equal to the maximum current on the name plate.
500VA - 24V = 20.8amps 12V = 41.6amps

So 230 x 20.8 = 4.78kVA
 
fordaputz said:
Before you use a buck boost to go from 277 to 230, please make sure that your equipment that is using the 230 is needing line-neutral 230.

Since the 277 comes from a 480Y/277, the common point on the buck boost will be the neutral.
If you supply the equipment with 230 volts, why would it care if the 230 was from a line to line supply or line to neutral supply? It sees 230 volts either way.
 
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