Cable TV and Telephone company Homerun?

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bakerbrotherselectric

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What would be the best way to get the telephone company and cable companies cables down to the termination box on a over head feed?
Its on the opposite corner of power coming in to the house, so it's not tied to the power riser like most I've seen.
 
I don't think I understand your question. From the street down the side of the building? That would be the cable and telephone companies responsibility. It's a violation for them to be attached to a service mast or ty-rapped to the service conduit or cable if that's what you are getting at.

If you wanted to there is no reason you couldn't provide a conduit and weatherhead for them.

-Hal
 
Most houses here in Southern California that still have overhead feeds, the cable and telephone are brought down and tied off to the riser from the electrical panel. So I was wondering, how do they get it to the termination box on the side of the house? Do they service mount it and then punch in right next to the box?. Or, do they need a riser installed so they can get to the box on the side of the house?

With underground feeds, they come into the bottom of the termination box. That's easy. Just don't know about the overhead feed?
 
bakerbrotherselectric said:
Most houses here in Southern California that still have overhead feeds, the cable and telephone are brought down and tied off to the riser from the electrical panel. So I was wondering, how do they get it to the termination box on the side of the house? Do they service mount it and then punch in right next to the box?. Or, do they need a riser installed so they can get to the box on the side of the house?

With underground feeds, they come into the bottom of the termination box. That's easy. Just don't know about the overhead feed?
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If I understand you correctly, the usual overhead phone and
cable is in violation of 230.28 if it is attached to the
service mast. In the cases you describe, I've seen
a separate mast (no weatherhead) to terminate
the phone cable, and then surface mounted to the
termination box. When I had a non-standard question
about their termination requirements,
I called the phone company engineer who had a
"standard" plan for the case I was describing (it was
undergound, not overhead), and my guess is the
phone company has such a document. The cable company
did not have such a "standard operating procedure", but
I just copied what the phone company said for my piece.
You may want to contact them. If it is new construction,
the contacts are usually on the plans (the trenching
plan, which may be non-existent in this case).

Can you post back what you do, I have a somewhat
similar case coming up in a few months?

Good luck.
 
I always run my drops to the same location as the electrical panel. That's usually where the phone/cable drops are as well. I am only responsible for getting the wires to a demarcation point. How they get their wires to the house, down the house or anything else is their problem not mine.
 
bakerbrotherselectric said:
.....Its on the opposite corner of power coming in to the house, so it's not tied to the power riser like most I've seen.
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bakerbrotherselectric said:
Most houses here in Southern California that still have overhead feeds, the cable and telephone are brought down and tied off to the riser from the electrical panel.....
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Haven't your inspectors, telecos and cablecos ever read the last sentence of 230.28?
 
Dont know about any amendments locally, and this is our first overhead upgrade, so haven't had to deal with the inspectors on this issue. Just looking around this neighborhood, most house are tied off at the electrical riser.
Maybe there is an amendment? I'll try to remember to post back what happens. Thanks again fellas.
 
I also don't understand why, if you are doing a new electrical service and the telephone and cable drops are on the other side of the house you are concerned about this. Seems to me that you aren't going to touch them.

Incidentally, there is good reason to locate the telephone and cable drops with the electrical service. That has to do with bonding.

-Hal
 
hbiss said:
Incidentally, there is good reason to locate the telephone and cable drops with the electrical service. That has to do with bonding.

-Hal
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Yes, telephone and cable should be located near the electrical service. The bonding of them greatly reduces, if not eliminates, any potential ground loops. If they cannot be together and a separate ground rod is used, there must be a #6 copper wire bonding it to the house ground.
 
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