Cadweld Pricing

[sgr1]

What do you guys charge for cadwelding. I don't any unit pricing on my program. Also what is the best caldweld unit to buy?

 

[shockin]

I like the Erico with the "Remote" ignition. You have to purchase the correct mold for your wire size and configuration which is generally $250 - $300. Each load is about $20 I believe. Make sure you purchase the cleaning brushes from Erico as well. By the time you clean and prep the wire and mold I would estimate that you have .5 manhours per weld. FYI the molds don't last forever. If you can get 50 shots out of it you are probably doing good as I recall. Good Luck

 

[sgr1]

I was thinking I had seen an ad for I think it was Erico that had a multi fit mold. Has anyone seen one or used one?

 

[satcom]

What do you guys charge for cadwelding. I don't any unit pricing on my program. Also what is the best caldweld unit to buy?

It will depend a lot on the job conditions, and schedule, but I have seen anywhere from $200 to 700 per weld, it will depend on your operating cost and direct labor and material for each job

 

[KentAT]

I also use the Erico Cadweld line. The Remote ignition unit, used with the Cadweld "Plus" line is the way to go. The PLUS charges do not have a shelf life, as the old styles do - 1 year I think the old ones were (but you could still get them started with a propoane torch).

Last time I bought in 2007, molds were typically $50-100 unless you bought a set of handles with them - added $80.

The Cadweld PLUS charges were
Erico #
45PLUSF20 @ 3.50 each
65PLUSF20 @ 4.50
90PLUSF20 @ 6.00
115PLUSF20 @ 7.50

I have not yet used the "MultiFit" line from Erico.

 

[shockin]

Last time I bought in 2007, molds were typically $50-100 unless you bought a set of handles with them - added $80.

The Cadweld PLUS charges were
Erico #
45PLUSF20 @ 3.50 each
65PLUSF20 @ 4.50
90PLUSF20 @ 6.00
115PLUSF20 @ 7.50

I went back and check what I paid a few months ago and it ranged from $75 - $175 for the molds. Add $50 for handles and always order a set of handles for each mold. It's not worth the time tring to change them over. The 250PLUSF20 were about $11 each.

I would say this pricing is pretty accurate for 4/0 and larger. It looks like your pricing is probably smaller then 4/0 based on the size of your charges.

 

[Fulthrotl]

What do you guys charge for cadwelding. I don't any unit pricing on my program. Also what is the best caldweld unit to buy?

i'm partial to erico, both for the molds and the weld material.
there's some erico knock off stuff in similar packaging that works
well, and some really cheap stuff in foil pouches that you want to
avoid like the plague. for all around best results.... erico.

the best source i've found for all things grounding is mayday grounding.
burndy and erico are their primary lines. they also do lightening
rods, arresters and whatnot. they are in buena park, calif.
they ship everywhere.

http://www.maydaygrounding.com/

their on site inventory of blocks, handles, and shot is larger than erico's
factory inventory.

i don't use the prepackaged electrically fired shots for a number of
reasons. cost is significantly higher, and with the smaller size shots,
sometimes the mold material will need a little more to get a good fill,
and i'll keep two size shots on the truck, and use them for smaller molds
by just dumping the extra. otherwise, you end up with half a dozen
different size shots, and you end up out of the one you need, so you
end up dumping anyway....

molds? avoid crosses. two tee's are a bunch faster than a cross, and
the molds are WAY cheaper. keep in mind that if you are doing cadweld
for poco's, they sometimes have a spec. that you cannot have two
cadwelds within 18" or 2' of each other.

mold consumption is a major variable. depends on who is doing your
cadwelding. i've watched guys scrub molds with wire brushes between
shots. it ruins the molds. erico says mold life is 50 shots. i get beween
200-300 shots from a 500 mcm tee. no scraping tools or wire brushes
in the mold throat or cavity.

you asked about pricing... for little stuff #6 - #2, i charge $25 a shot
plus my hourly rate. if it's not a mold i have, the mold, handle, shots etc.
plus 25% markup. so 500 mcm tees, i'd say about $50 a shot for material,
plus the labor rate.

someone else mentioned a price of $200 - $700 a shot....
seems awfully high to me..... how do i get work like that?


randy

 

[KentAT]

It looks like your pricing is probably smaller then 4/0 based on the size of your charges.

Yep. Mine is just for grounding applications of #4 and 1/0 to each other, pipes, flat steel, fence posts, and 3/4" ground rods.

 

[sgr1]

Thanks for all of the info I haven't seen the prints yet but I think it will all be number 2 wire.

 

[nakulak]

for #2 and less you can get one shots (throwaways) for 20 bucks or so ea.

 

[tkb]

For ground rods with #2 to #6 (I think) Erico makes a disposable one shot mold that comes with the weld metal. All you need is the striker.

Works great for small grounding. Last time I bought one it was about $7 per shot.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

someone else mentioned a price of $200 - $700 a shot....
seems awfully high to me..... how do i get work like that?
randy

Where I am at I have to figure 3 to 4 manhours per shot to cover the time required to get the proper permits and fire watch and make the weld. That would put me at $300 to $400 without any material or molds.

 

[bradleyelectric]

someone else mentioned a price of $200 - $700 a shot....
seems awfully high to me..... how do i get work like that?
randy

It looks like the same price range you are charging it you don't have the mold. Than the next time you shoot the same mold you drop your price. I may be misunderstanding.