Calculating Loading 120/208V, 3-phase, Transformer Supplying 208V, 1-Phase Loads

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I don't do a lot of single phase work, so I'm rusty on the calculations. If I want to power three, 100 A, 208 V, single-phase loads, all supplied from one, three-phase, 480-120/208V transformer. What is the loading on that transformer? I keep working myself in circles on whether the 1.732 applies or not.
 
Balanced single phase loads look like a three phase load. So you could analyze as:

100A * 208V * 3 = 62400 VA 62400 / 208 / 1.732 = 173A

Or you could use the rules for vector addition on each phase. Each phase see 100A going to each of the other 2 phases, so there is a phase angle difference. 100 * 1.732 = 173A

-Jon
 
I don't do a lot of single phase work, so I'm rusty on the calculations. If I want to power three, 100 A, 208 V, single-phase loads, all supplied from one, three-phase, 480-120/208V transformer. What is the loading on that transformer? I keep working myself in circles on whether the 1.732 applies or not.

There is a square root formula for translating phase-to-phase current into the corresponding phase-to-neutral current. If all three phase-to-phase loads are equal you will see that the three terms under the square root are add up to 3*current^2, which shows you how sqrt(3) gets involved.

Ia = sqrt(Iab^2 + Ica^2 + Iab*Ica) + Ia0
Ib = sqrt(Iab^2 + Ibc^2 + Iab*Ibc) + Ib0
Ic = sqrt(Ibc^2 + Ica^2 + Ibc*Ica) + Ic0

Iab, means current of loads connected across phases a and b.
Ia0, means the sum of phase A-to-neutral loads and the impact of balanced three phase loads on phase A, before you consider the phase-to-phase loads on 2-pole breakers.
Ia is the total current on the phase A conductor.
Apply the same concept to the other subscripts.

Notice that it is the two phase-to-phase possibilities that contain an "a" in the subscript, that apply to phase A. Similarly, with phases B and C. You square each of them, and you multiply a mixed product of both of them. Add all three terms, and take the square root o the sum. Then add on the current not associated with phase-to-phase loads.
 
A balanced three phase load is basically three identical single phase loads connected to the source in a similar fashion.

Current from A to B and A to C is a certain value, but net current flowing from A to the source is 1.732 times more. So basically any time you are carrying equal amounts of current coming from the other two lines you have 1.732 times current on the line in question.
 
Thanks everyone! I need to sit down and sketch this out to (hopefully finally) solidify this in my mind. Part of my hangup was trying to solve for the line-to-neutral single phase loads at the same time I was solving for the line-to-line single phase loads.
 
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