Calif. Journeymen License/Certificate Enforcement

[tryinghard]

In rural California, (on small jobs, remodels, & service work), how does the State of Calif. and the Division of Apprenticeship Standards enforce the required Journeymen license/certificate?

 

[ibew441dc]

CA Enforcement

CA Enforcement

In rural California, (on small jobs, remodels, & service work), how does the State of Calif. and the Division of Apprenticeship Standards enforce the required Journeymen license/certificate?

Tryinghard, I pulled this off of the Division of Apprenticeship standards website.http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/ECU_FAQ.htm#9

Enforcement Questions

Who enforces the law for electrician certification?

Effective January 1, 2009 the Contractors State License Board (CSLB) will enforce the electrician certification law. Not complying with the law could subject the licensee to administrative action by the CSLB. It could potentially open these contractors and workers up to civil suits should there be problems with work done by an uncertified worker.
What is the penalty when an electrician is found working without a valid certification?

According to our Regulations 294.0 - any person who displays a certificate, or otherwise claims to be certified, who is not certified shall be prohibited from taking the test for certification for a period of seven (7) years.

If there is fraud - The Chief DAS may for good cause suspend or revoke the person's certification if the person has committed gross negligence or fraud, or engaged in repeated acts of negligence during the performance of activities subject to the certification or if the person obtained certification through mistake, misrepresentation or fraud. - Regs. 293.0(b).

 

[ibew441dc]

In rural California, (on small jobs, remodels, & service work)

Unless somebody gets mad at somebody else and reports a none certified electrician, or one deals with an inspector, or one causes significant damage, or one causes injury or death..........nobody will probably ever know.

An Electrician should be Certified regardless of where he or she is or what they are doing....... I hope that the growing trend of enforcement really takes hold state wide.

 

[tryinghard]

Unless somebody gets mad at somebody else and reports a none certified electrician, or one deals with an inspector, or one causes significant damage, or one causes injury or death..........nobody will probably ever know.

An Electrician should be Certified regardless of where he or she is or what they are doing....... I hope that the growing trend of enforcement really takes hold state wide.

Me to, thanks Daniel for your help.

 

[The Core]

Could you still be in trouble if you had a date set to take the test?

My biggest worry about this,is getting my employer in trouble.

 

[ibew441dc]

Must be Certified, An Apprentice, Or Enrolled Trainee...Or your working illegally

Must be Certified, An Apprentice, Or Enrolled Trainee...Or your working illegally

Could you still be in trouble if you had a date set to take the test?

Depends on when you sent in your application.http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/CAC_ECU-Min5.htm

My biggest worry about this,is getting my employer in trouble.

Your employer's (C-10 Contractor) biggest worry should be having non certified electricians. The liability is now greater than ever and there is now law to support enforcement of such violations. The CSLB could fine, suspend, or even revoke a C-10 for non compliance. In the event that there is damage, injury, or death, involved as a result of a non certified electrician, you pretty much lost any chance at a defense.

http://www.dir.ca.gov/DAS/ECU_FAQ.htm#9

My advice would be to get certified or enroll as a trainee.
Here is a link to everything you need to know about certification in CA.http://www.dir.ca.gov/das/ElectricalTrade.htm

 

[The Core]

Thanks for the info.

The thing is,I was certified,things happened,and the renewel date slipped past me.I even got some credits on the Grounding/Bonding class,so I wasn't trying to not do it.

My money and paperwork went in the mail last night,so hopefully,within a month or so,I'll be legal again.Meantime,I'm currently working a project out in the boonies,with just me,no general,no nothing.

I am sweatin this bigtime.

Should I tell the boss?

What say you?