Can an outlet box be installed behind a removable cover inside a soffitted eave?

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rszimm

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Looking at 314.29 it says that outlet boxes have to be accessible "without removing any part of the building or structure". I've got a situation where I have an eave with a wood (tongue and groove) soffit. I'm being asked to put an outlet inside the eave that would be "accessible" through a 3" hole in the soffit covered by a removable steel plate. Would that be allowed?

Just for some clarity, what they're trying to do is install a USB powered camera under that eave. Thought would be to put the outlet inside the eave with a USB adapter plugged in, and then fish the usb cable through a hole in the steel plate and power the camera.

Second question, assuming what I'm talking about is allowed, would being inside the eave be a damp or a dry location? I'm thinking it's dry as I can't see a situation where it could get wet, but it is technically still sort of outside.

Oh, one other thing. This is a flat roof, so there's no attic or other accessibility. It's more like a covered porch with a ceiling on it.

Incidentally, I'm about 90% sure this is OK and it's a dry location as I don't really see a difference between an outlet box and those junction/control boxes for the flat recessed "hockey puck" lights, and no one bats an eye when those get shoved into eave soffits.
 

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rszimm

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Those are what I use on walls. Never tried one in a soffit. I would be worried that the latches wouldn't hold the door closed very well. The ones I have don't latch particularly solidly, but it's fine on a wall because gravity is your friend.
 

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Those are what I use on walls. Never tried one in a soffit. I would be worried that the latches wouldn't hold the door closed very well. The ones I have don't latch particularly solidly, but it's fine on a wall because gravity is your friend.

I have them in my soffit for Christmas lighting. The cover has never opened on its own. I’ve installed them in several customer homes with no issues.


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curt swartz

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I could not fit my hand through a 3" hole to plug something in let alone install a receptacle.

I always try to talk people out of USB powered cameras but if they insist we usually run CAT5E/CAT6/CAT6A and use https://www.poetexas.com/
PoE to USB adapters. Since the cameras don't communicate over USB you can just use PoE injectors instead of a PoE switch.

This also allows the customers to switch to real cameras in the future.
 

rszimm

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That's a brilliant suggestion curt. Didn't know those existed. Wish I had asked before the drywall and soffit was up! I'll keep that one around for next time.
 
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