Cat6 cabling in Site Pole

DJordan23

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New to the forum. Loving it so far.

This question has always alluded me. In installations of site poles say 20' round aluminum pole and they want a camera mounted 8' or so. What is the best way to get around the power and data Cat6 wiring sharing the same "raceway".

My initial thought was some form on FMC for the power conductors or some form of smurf tube for the cabling.

Looking forward to your recommendations and other code pitfalls you want to make me aware on.
 

infinity

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As long as the power conductors are in a raceway or cable within the pole they are considered to be separate from the CAT6.
 

DJordan23

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As long as the power conductors are in a raceway or cable within the pole they are considered to be separate from the CAT6.
Thanks infinity, An electrician told me that they use a Cat6 with a 300V volt rating. Am I correct in saying this has no impact on the need to separate the power conductors in a raceway or cable.
 

don_resqcapt19

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Thanks infinity, An electrician told me that they use a Cat6 with a 300V volt rating. Am I correct in saying this has no impact on the need to separate the power conductors in a raceway or cable.
Even if you use one with a 600 volt rating, you would still have to provide something that qualifies as separation under the rules of the NEC.
 

jap

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As long as the power conductors are in a raceway or cable within the pole they are considered to be separate from the CAT6.

Doesn't that work both ways?
Say, as long as the Cat6 is in a separate raceway inside the pole?

JAP>
 

infinity

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Doesn't that work both ways?
Say, as long as the Cat6 is in a separate raceway inside the pole?

JAP>
Yes either way as long as the pole is permitted to have individual power conductors running it. One way may be easier than the other.
 

jap

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If you're going to do this, you'd better hope the pole was designed for this type of installation to begin with.

In reality is usually goes like this.

How is he going to get the Cat 6 into the pole base to begin with unless a spare conduit has been stubbed into the base of the pole before the pour?

Even if it is stubbed in, and he's using the inside of the pole as a raceway he's going to have to transition to carflex, somehow at the bottom of the pole, fish it 8' up the pole, drill a hole in the pole at 8' (voiding any kind of pole warranty by the way) somehow put his cat6 in the carflex and somehow fish that whole nightmare up 8' and get the threads of whatever he put on the end of his flex to protrude enough out of a round surface of the pole to get something on the outside threads to protect the cable which has now been rendered unserviceable because the cable is now captured by the 90d flex connector he had to put inside the pole to keep it entirely seperated from the power conductors. :)

It's almost comical to listen to shop talk vs. what you actually run up against in the field.

Better off to stay on the outside of the pole if the cat 6 cable you're using isnt allowed alongside the power conductors inside the pole,
or,
Get a bettter camera and send the cable all the way up to the top of the pole.

JAP>
 
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