Cathedral Ceiling

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enosez

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I have to put a ceiling fan in a bedroom that has a cathedral ceiling.
The framing is truss and currently lighting is from two high hats.

Customer wants to put the fan at the peak.

I was looking to use the Arlington fan box specifically designed for this....
http://www.aifittings.com/whnew80.htm

Has anyone used these before???

Do the boxes mount from behind the drywall or from the face????

Are they unsightly???

Or does anyone have a better suggestion as the HO doesnt want to place a fan box on the actual slope away from the peak.
 
i used one on my own house. i have a horizontal double fan supported by a single pipe vertical up to the ceiling box--a tee type arrangement. the only trouble is adapting the normal ceiling cover plate that comes with most fans because the finished surface will be "V" shaped up into the top of the cathedral. i had the drywall finished up to the box and then when installing the fan marked and carefully cut the drywall to allow the fan's ceiling finish plate to recess into the drywall enough to seal any openings in the installation. did the same thing in my buddy's house and they look good!
 
Is there a cover plate, or does the box get put in before drywall.
My application would be old work, will I be running into fitting issues.
 
You cannot old work this, just look at the picture and you will see why, if you cannot cut the sheetrock out to install this, then I would make your own block and fasten it to the ridge beam with some very long screws.
 
Probably no ridge beam if they are trusses. How do you know they are trusses? If there is a ridge, you may be able to use the arlington box. I have used one where there was attic above one side of the cathedral. Your situation would be more difficult, but possible.
 
j_erickson said:
Probably no ridge beam if they are trusses. How do you know they are trusses? If there is a ridge, you may be able to use the arlington box. I have used one where there was attic above one side of the cathedral. Your situation would be more difficult, but possible.
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Worst case scenario, I would mount the fan on the angle with one of these,

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When you use the box below how do you fasten sheetrock around it? Someone will have to do some framing to accommodate the box

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mount the assembly so that it clears the "peak" of the truss--- just make sure the drywall installer doesn't cover it up....... you need the assembly to support the fan...
 
The drywall will have to be cut out and patched and there will be a square chunk of the "box" showing.

In my opinion it wouldn't look good. You might as well just frame it out and drywall it. Installation would be just as easy.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
When you use the box below how do you fasten sheetrock around it? Someone will have to do some framing to accommodate the box
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No framing required, but the drywall is simply cut out to butt up to the sides of the plastic, the surfaces mudded and taped like any inside corner, and then sanding and paint make it look integrated.
 
Cieling fan

Cieling fan

I'm wiring a house right now with a cathedral cieling that will be finished in tongue and groove. The carpenters on this job told me to put a wire up there and give them the box and they will take care of it.I repaired one of thier generators and fixed a power box for them earlier in the job so they don't mind helping me out. It pays to co-operate with the knuckle dragging trades.:smile: ;)
 
Since this box isnt old work. Does anyone have any suggestions on something that is...check local supply..nothing.
Checked the web and keep coming up with this.

Mounting the fan off to one side is an option the HO doesnt want.

I know its trusses because I was up in the attic and man was it a b**ch getting around up there.

The ceiling is going to be painted so worst case scenario, I will have to fab something to work.

Thanks guys!!
 
enosez said:
Since this box isnt old work. Does anyone have any suggestions on something that is...check local supply..nothing.
Checked the web and keep coming up with this.

Mounting the fan off to one side is an option the HO doesnt want.

I know its trusses because I was up in the attic and man was it a b**ch getting around up there.

The ceiling is going to be painted so worst case scenario, I will have to fab something to work.

Thanks guys!!
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You can always slap a 6x6 up to the framing and mount a box to that, of course what are the odds that a truss is where you want the fan...;)
 
LarryFine said:
No framing required, but the drywall is simply cut out to butt up to the sides of the plastic, the surfaces mudded and taped like any inside corner, and then sanding and paint make it look integrated.
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That's what I thought but that type of install is bound to crack. My builders would kill me for that. If that's a 2 foot span and you are in the middle then I would be concerned about cracking. Actually I would be concerned on 16" on center also.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
That's what I thought but that type of install is bound to crack. My builders would kill me for that. If that's a 2 foot span and you are in the middle then I would be concerned about cracking. Actually I would be concerned on 16" on center also.
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Why would you be concerned? Sounds like a bad taping problem to me... You cant babysit everyone...
 
stickboy1375 said:
Why would you be concerned? Sounds like a bad taping problem to me... You cant babysit everyone...
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Not necessarily a bad taping job. There is a lot of movement up at those peaks and with nothing to nail the sheetrock to it just looks like an issue. I cannot blame the sheetrockers for something I installed. I usually build that from wood which gives the rockers something to attach to. It is a big PITA.
 
Dennis I think It would be better if it flexed, but just my opinion, and i've installed quite of few of those boxes with no issues.... but never on trusses, so not sure of the outcome...
 
Dennis Alwon said:
That's what I thought but that type of install is bound to crack.
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Check one out at the supply house next chance you get. The plastic box is hollow and thin enough to flex with movement, moreso than drywall itself.
 
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