Catv cable near pool
- Thread starter kitsr
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kitsr said:
I would say 680.8 (B) comes into play here.
mdshunk
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What kind of TV cable is it if it's not coaxial? Hardline is stil coax. Just curious, is all.
charlie
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Check with the CATV company, it is their service drop and they are governed by the NESC.kitsr said:
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Charlie wouldn't the NEC still have jurisdiction on this issue. Art. 680.8(A) says with respect to service drops conductors....charlie said:Check with the CATV company, it is their service drop and they are governed by the NESC.
Even if that is utility own It still is a violation of NEC rules. NO.....?
I see the same issue with the cable.
charlie
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Dennis Alwon said:
90.2 Scope.
(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:
(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control of communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used exclusively for such installations
A CATV company is a communications company. They offer VoIP, high speed Internet service, and CATV service. They are also a recognized utility and pole owners such as electric utilities and AT&T are required by law to permit attachments. You may also wish to read the following FPN:(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:
(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control of communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used exclusively for such installations
FPN to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include those entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental law or regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or distribution systems) or communication systems (such as telephone, CATV, Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject to compliance with codes and standards covering their regulated activities as adopted under governmental law or regulation. Additional information can be found through consultation with the appropriate governmental bodies, such as state regulatory commissions, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and the Federal Communications Commission.
The bottom line is that the service drops in the NEC are on the load side of the service point. If the premises wiring system has to include the service drop or service lateral, you have to know how it is to be installed and what standard it must be inspected by. In that case, it would be the NEC since it would be on the load side of the service point. This same discussion applies to communications service drops and laterals. :smile:
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Charlie my thinking is that the nec can say that a swimming pool cannot be installed under a powered line whether it is a utility or not. I understand the utility is responsibile for the cable but I don't see why the NEC cannot state the pool cannot be installed under the line unless it has the clearances stated in 680.8(A)
Rampage_Rick
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My first thought would be: how do you wind up with a CATV trunk line above a pool? Aerial trespass? One would think that the cable co. would need some kind of easement or statutory right-of-way.kitsr said:
charlie
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The NEC can and does make that statement. However, the ruling document is the NESC and the table falls short of the requirements of the NESC.Dennis Alwon said:
My discussion has always been the little 1/4" co-ax cable that the CATV company provides from their main distribution to the home, the service drop if you will.Rampage_Rick said:
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