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Hi all, looks like a great site. I have a question concerning a system(s) that may require low-voltage certifications. Maybe someone can help me here.


System 1- The idea would be to monitor cycles of a drill press or other shop machines on a computer or digital counter. To accomplish this:

-Open the panel of the drill press and identify the switch that cycles the machine. This switch can be either 24v, 110v, or 220v depending on the make or brand of the machine.

-Find the switched side of (typically) a 4 pole switch and jump wires from that switch to the input side of a relay board that we install in the panel of the drill press.

-The ouput side of the relay board (signal) is then run to a board outside of the machine with a communication jack.

-From that board and or jack, run a communication cable, that plots on/off signals on the computer or digital counter.

System 2-

Divert machine coolant flow:

-Mount a 110v to 24vac transformer box in a remote area. Run an 18/4 cable 50' or so (depending on where 110v is available) from that transformer box to a connector (plug) that we would attach the 4 wires on site.

- Plug that connector to its mate (a factory wired cable) for easy disconnect if machine is moved. That cable is plugged into a on/off switch box mounted on the machine.

-From that on/off switch box we would run two wires and wire nut them to a 24v solenoid that operates a mechanical valve to divert coolant, right or left, on an old milling machine or other shop equipment.

The question: In states that require ?power limited certification? or ?low-voltage cert? for certain work, would either of these two systems need such a license? If so, does that mean one time installs require a license or only if you market them. Thanks.
 
If you work in a state where a license is required, even a one time install would count. Second, I'm sure you cannot do all this with just low voltage, there are going to be 120 volt solenoids and such on the machine. (you already mentioned terminating 1200 volt) Second, what if it makes the machine malfunction? causing damage? Are you insured? Welcome to the forum
 
Thank you for the response. I think he's thinking a 24v solenoid to actuate the valve. This is a partner/friend of mines idea, I keep telling him I think you need certifiaction. And, he would more than likely do it all legit with insurance if he was to do it.
 
He's asked me to find out what is needed. The whole low voltage and power limited cert. is a little difficult to understand if you're not an electrician.
 
Minnesota, MAK...he showed me transformer he'd use on the 2nd system. It has no Class 1,2 or 3 on the label. So can I assume it won't be a Class 3 system, since not listed on the label means Class 1. Is Class 3 the only determining thing to require a Power Limited Tech to install it?
 
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