Charging a customer

[Therealcrt]

I’m curious to see what anybody here would charge a customer for the following tasks

1.) uninstall a 6 inch can trim and install an old work fan box then hang new pendant light. Also install a medallion to cover the gap that the pendant canopy won’t cover from the open 6 inch hole

2.) in another location. Uninstall a 6 inch can trim again and install an old work fan box then assemble a fan with a light kit and install it. Also going to need a medallion to cover the gap again.

3.) uninstall a bath fan light combo and install a new one. Hopefully won’t need to get into the attic because of the location is at the far pitch of the roof access is basically impossible. I have cut in new fans from the bottom before, but I should account for any hiccups along the way.

I’m a licensed journeyman electrician 10 years experience currently making around 50 an hour curious to see what other people would charge for a job like this I was thinking 100 per hour 2 hour minimum. Idk

 

[LarryFine]

1. $150

2. $250

3. $250-350

 

[Seven-Delta-FortyOne]

With bath fans in remodel, I don’t usually give a firm price. Sometimes I roll it into the bid if it’s part of the larger remodel. But they can get tricky.

Tip: Use a Panasonic fan. Easiest to install in a remodel situation, which is not to say it’s particularly easy.

I’m at $250/first hour, $160/hour for electrical work after the first hour. That includes up to 1/2 hour of drive time.

I’m also in California, where roughly 55% of our income goes to some useless government agency, or mandatory “program”. And the associated time it takes us to shovel that much money to the gubermint

 

[Therealcrt]

With bath fans in remodel, I don’t usually give a firm price. Sometimes I roll it into the bid if it’s part of the larger remodel. But they can get tricky.

Tip: Use a Panasonic fan. Easiest to install in a remodel situation, which is not to say it’s particularly easy.

I’m at $250/first hour, $160/hour for electrical work after the first hour. That includes up to 1/2 hour of drive time.

I’m also in California, where roughly 55% of our income goes to some useless government agency, or mandatory “program”. And the associated time it takes us to shovel that much money to the gubermint

The bath fan is weird though. It’s square like normal but There’s a round cover that’s larger than the square bath fan but it looked like it snaps into the square bath fan idk

 

[jmellc]

The bath fan is weird though. It’s square like normal but There’s a round cover that’s larger than the square bath fan but it looked like it snaps into the square bath fan idk

You might have some odd model or maybe someone engineered it on a replacement. May have robbed a cover from some other fan? Bath fans are full of surprises as you open them up. I'm needing to replace 2 in my house and I dread it. My wife stays on me about it so I won't be able to dodge it much longer. 1 thing I wish I had done in the past on installs was to make a baffle on each side with plywood or shelving board. Would lessen insulation getting in and keep it from dumping out the hole if you have to pull it out.

I hated the few medallions I did. Nothing but trouble. See if you can talk customer into having a drywaller patch around the new boxes. That is a better option for long haul IMHO. If he wants medallion down later, I think they are hard to remove.

In one ragged house, the owner let me overlay a huge hole with a 12 inch square of plywood and anchor my fan box in it. I hung fan and he later painted the plywood. Not something I could usually do but this house was little more than a shack and I left it better than I found it.

 

[James L]

I've been subbing for quite a while, so my prices are set for no sales work. The contractor is the one who makes the sale.

Trip charge - $125
Demo can - $40
Install add-a-brace - $35
Install pendant - $65
Demo can - $40
Install add-a-brace - $35
Install ceiling fan - $85
Demo bath fan - $40
Install bath fan - $110
Total - $575

Add 50% to each of those lines if it's for a homeowner. New total $862

Customer would supply all the fixtures and medallions.

 

[Little Bill]

Only bath fan remodel that I liked was those where I could just swap the guts!

On others, here are a few reasons to hate them:
Hard to find the exact size of the fan being replaced. Not too bad if the new fan is larger, you can always cut out more ceiling material.
Insulation (nasty insulation) goes all over the place, even if you put down drop cloths/tarps
Danger of cracking the drywall trying to pull nails out of seasoned oak
No room in the attic due to the slope of the roof. Fans were installed on the rough when house was built.
Venting nightmares

Just a few things make replacing bath fans terrible. I actually swore off those even before I retired (semi).

 

[hillbilly1]

Only bath fan remodel that I liked was those where I could just swap the guts!

On others, here are a few reasons to hate them:
Hard to find the exact size of the fan being replaced. Not too bad if the new fan is larger, you can always cut out more ceiling material.
Insulation (nasty insulation) goes all over the place, even if you put down drop cloths/tarps
Danger of cracking the drywall trying to pull nails out of seasoned oak
No room in the attic due to the slope of the roof. Fans were installed on the rough when house was built.
Venting nightmares

Just a few things make replacing bath fans terrible. I actually swore off those even before I retired (semi).

Don’t you just love blown in insulation? Can’t never get the stuff from pouring out the hole!

 

[Therealcrt]

I've been subbing for quite a while, so my prices are set for no sales work. The contractor is the one who makes the sale.

Trip charge - $125
Demo can - $40
Install add-a-brace - $35
Install pendant - $65
Demo can - $40
Install add-a-brace - $35
Install ceiling fan - $85
Demo bath fan - $40
Install bath fan - $110
Total - $575

Add 50% to each of those lines if it's for a homeowner. New total $862

Customer would supply all the fixtures and medallions.

I like that but that doesn’t seem high dollar?

 

[James L]

I like that but that doesn’t seem high dollar?

Depends on what you consider enough. Part of that depends on how much nonproduction time you have.

When I'm subbing, I'm rarely bidding anything. They know my pricing and they bid accordingly. Aside from material shopping, I'm on the job (well, supposed to be).

If I get that scope of work emailed to me a week ahead of time, I can pick up those materials along with other stuff

I would be looking at 5-6 hours of work time on that. My target is $90 per hour when subbing.

My target is $135 to end user.

Some like to have a higher target, and that's ok.