JHZR2
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- Location
- New Jersey
- Occupation
- Power Systems Engineer
Looking for some advisement here on how to proceed. Doing a job which includes rewiring a kitchen. The rewiring means installing a new subpanel and removing a few old circuits made of cloth nm.
While chasing circuits (old home so various things are connected that would be absolutely stupid by modern logic), found one circuit with no grounding conductor in the panel, but that showed ground at the first recepticle. It was a basement circuit primarily, so I could follow it and disconnect various junctions and outlets. Another circuit had a bootleg ground, so I was initially setting out to just find that... But there were none.
Of course the last point of the entire wiring was the culprit... And that is an outdoor light that is screwed in via aluminum siding. I used a fluke 179 to check continuity everywhere, and with the conductor disconnected at the switch, I still get continuity on the outdoor end of the conductor. So it's disconnected but since the conductor is bonded to the lighting box, which is screwed to the aluminum siding, its a ground path to the panel.
The disconnected ground conductor to the neutral busbar is 0.1 ohm. I then exposed some metal on the siding, and also got 0.1 ohm resistance to the neutral busbar. Further continuity testing proved to me that the nm-b is NOT damaged along it's run.
A detailed look-over did not show any indication of any attempts to specifically ground the siding. It is heavy, thick 1950's wide aluminum.
So what recommendation is best? Gfci/AFCI breaker (there is none currently)? Unground that light and allow it to use the siding while the rest of the circuit uses it's dedicated ground (logic being that we don't want stray currents using the siding as it's best path ever for loads on the circuit)?
Thanks!
While chasing circuits (old home so various things are connected that would be absolutely stupid by modern logic), found one circuit with no grounding conductor in the panel, but that showed ground at the first recepticle. It was a basement circuit primarily, so I could follow it and disconnect various junctions and outlets. Another circuit had a bootleg ground, so I was initially setting out to just find that... But there were none.
Of course the last point of the entire wiring was the culprit... And that is an outdoor light that is screwed in via aluminum siding. I used a fluke 179 to check continuity everywhere, and with the conductor disconnected at the switch, I still get continuity on the outdoor end of the conductor. So it's disconnected but since the conductor is bonded to the lighting box, which is screwed to the aluminum siding, its a ground path to the panel.
The disconnected ground conductor to the neutral busbar is 0.1 ohm. I then exposed some metal on the siding, and also got 0.1 ohm resistance to the neutral busbar. Further continuity testing proved to me that the nm-b is NOT damaged along it's run.
A detailed look-over did not show any indication of any attempts to specifically ground the siding. It is heavy, thick 1950's wide aluminum.
So what recommendation is best? Gfci/AFCI breaker (there is none currently)? Unground that light and allow it to use the siding while the rest of the circuit uses it's dedicated ground (logic being that we don't want stray currents using the siding as it's best path ever for loads on the circuit)?
Thanks!
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