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Alwayslearningelec

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Ok a few questions..:?

1. When can conduit be used as a ground for branch circuits? I know code says you can use conduit for a ground. And do you ever need a separate ground if it does not specifically call for it?
2. You can use a common nuetral per (3) phases for branch circuits??
3.If you have a 120/208 panel how do you know which circuits utilize 208v? Would it be 2 & 3pole circuits:ashamed1:

As always THANKS
 

Dennis Alwon

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Ok a few questions..:?

1. When can conduit be used as a ground for branch circuits? I know code says you can use conduit for a ground. And do you ever need a separate ground if it does not specifically call for it?
2. You can use a common nuetral per (3) phases for branch circuits??
3.If you have a 120/208 panel how do you know which circuits utilize 208v? Would it be 2 & 3pole circuits:ashamed1:

As always THANKS

What kind of conduit?
 

infinity

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Answers in red.

Ok a few questions..:?

1. When can conduit be used as a ground for branch circuits? I know code says you can use conduit for a ground. And do you ever need a separate ground if it does not specifically call for it? {250.118}
2. You can use a common nuetral per (3) phases for branch circuits?? {yes}
3.If you have a 120/208 panel how do you know which circuits utilize 208v? Would it be 2 & 3pole circuits:ashamed1: {yes}

As always THANKS
 

haskindm

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1. Metal conduit may be used as an equipment ground unless it is specifically prohibited, such as for a swimming pool or marina where it says the grounding conductor must be insulated copper.

2. This is called a multiwire branch circuit and there are some restrictions, but they are quite common. See multiwire branch circuit in the index.

3. 120-volt loads would be phase to neutral connections. 208-volt loads would be phase to phase connections, so 120-volt loads would be on a single-pole breaker and 208-volt loads would be on a 2 or 3 pole breaker.
 

Alwayslearningelec

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1. Metal conduit may be used as an equipment ground unless it is specifically prohibited, such as for a swimming pool or marina where it says the grounding conductor must be insulated copper.

2. This is called a multiwire branch circuit and there are some restrictions, but they are quite common. See multiwire branch circuit in the index.

3. 120-volt loads would be phase to neutral connections. 208-volt loads would be phase to phase connections, so 120-volt loads would be on a single-pole breaker and 208-volt loads would be on a 2 or 3 pole breaker.

Thanks!!! So, say you were pulling (3) 120v 20A circuits in EMT or RGS it would be (3) hots and (1) Nuetral? If it were (3) 208v 2 pole circuits it would be (6) hots and (1) nuetral??
 

infinity

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Thanks!!! So, say you were pulling (3) 120v 20A circuits in EMT or RGS it would be (3) hots and (1) Nuetral? If it were (3) 208v 2 pole circuits it would be (6) hots and (1) nuetral??

No, 3-120/208 volt, 2 pole circuits would require 3 neutrals.
 

Alwayslearningelec

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Horsegoer, is there any chance that you could spend some time in the field, on the job,

work with the guys ? Some hands on experience would go a long ways. My .02 cents

I agree and wish. It would have to be on the weekends and I put an ad once on Craigslsit but got no bites.
 

Dennis Alwon

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Horsegoer. If you have a single phase panel then the most you can do is have one neutral with 2 hots- one on each phase. If you have a 3 phase panel you may have up to 3 hot and one neutral-- you could have 2 hots and one neutral also. So yes if you had 4 -120V cir. you could have 2 neutrals each grouped with 2 hot conductors or you can have 2 neutrals- one neutral with 3 hots and the other neutral with one hot conductor.
 

maghazadeh

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Horsegoer, is there any chance that you could spend some time in the field, on the job,
work with the guys ? Some hands on experience would go a long ways. My .02 cents

Originally Posted by horsegoer
I agree and wish. It would have to be on the weekends and I put an ad once on Craigslsit but got no bites.

Horsegoer, Come to CA. I will send you to jobsites for some hands on experince.
 

Cow

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Originally Posted by horsegoer
I agree and wish. It would have to be on the weekends and I put an ad once on Craigslsit but got no bites.

Horsegoer, Come to CA. I will send you to jobsites for some hands on experince.

Horsegoer, you should take him up on this!! Really!!

I bet even a little hands on time would answer so many of your questions you'd kick yourself for not doing it sooner!! Well worth the airplane ticket!! Time to schedule some vacation...
 

Alwayslearningelec

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Originally Posted by horsegoer
I agree and wish. It would have to be on the weekends and I put an ad once on Craigslsit but got no bites.

Horsegoer, Come to CA. I will send you to jobsites for some hands on experince.

Wow Mag I just saw Cambell location in CA.... Wow... Nice location :jawdrop:
 
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