Classic Hack job

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Found this last week. I'm sure somebody thought they'd save the homeowner some money versus a new panel. That's a Zinsco panel, with a Square D riveted into place as a main, then zip screwed into the enclosure. Could you have guessed the inner cover didn't fit too well?
 

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jaylectricity said:
Where are the branch circuit conductors?
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fmtjfw said:
Is this an underground service with meters that don't care about direction of current flow?
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I think the unit has been removed and is just leaning against a fence (maybe is upside down) before the picture was taken.

I guess it could be wood siding on the home and not a fence it is leaning against.
 
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Another hack job is that I see 2-30A single pole breakers in there, since no photos were posted of when the panel was in service can't say anything about the missing handle tie on another breaker.
 
norcal said:
Another hack job is that I see 2-30A single pole breakers in there, since no photos were posted of when the panel was in service can't say anything about the missing handle tie on another breaker.
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What if it were feeding a legitimate single pole 30 amp circuit? Something that doesn't happen much in a dwelling though.

Most common thing I can think of that may be installed at a dwelling is a 30 amp receptacle for plugging in a RV or camper.
 
kwired said:
What if it were feeding a legitimate single pole 30 amp circuit? Something that doesn't happen much in a dwelling though.

Most common thing I can think of that may be installed at a dwelling is a 30 amp receptacle for plugging in a RV or camper.
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In a residential situation, a 30A SP breaker is a bad thing unless proven otherwise, besides a travel trailer, not much in the residential realm needs a 30A 120V circuit.
 
norcal said:
In a residential situation, a 30A SP breaker is a bad thing unless proven otherwise, besides a travel trailer, not much in the residential realm needs a 30A 120V circuit.
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Not much ever needs a 30A 120 V branch circuit. Though there occasionally are things that only have a 5-15 cord cap on them that probably should have a 30 amp circuit supplying them:(
 
electricguy61 said:
After my guys removed the panel & threw it away, I pulled it out for a picture. Yes, it is upside down against a fence. And the 30amp single pole was feeding #12 wire. But hey, I guess it stopped tripping :)
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I installed a new 2-pole 30A circuit for a dryer in a house last week. The way they had it wired before was 10-3 draped along the basement into an octagon box 10 feet away from the dryer. Then from there they had 10-3 going to the receptacle, but also a 14-2 attached to one leg to a switch out on the porch. From there it was a wire that went into the ground towards the back of the yard. I just ended up leaving that disconnect to investigate at a later date when we're redoing the finished part of the basement.

It was raining a lot, so I didn't spend too much time out there but I couldn't find where it went to.

The other thing is that even though they used 10-3, they installed a 3-wire dryer receptacle.
 
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