aftershock
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- Memphis, TN
The service comes from the POCO, into the basement to a disconnect. Disconnect feeds 16 meters through 2 troughs(gutters). Each meter feeds a 4 circuit fuse panel with a 60 amp pull-out which mains the panel. all panels have conduit that runs up to the ceiling into as 2'x2' JB. 8 - 3/4" dia. raceways exit this JB. Each raceway has 2 hots and 2 neutrals. Each raceway feeds 2 apartments. Each apartment has 1 - 4 circuit fuse panel with only 2 circuits being used, 1 for lights and 1 for receps. The other 2 fuse holders are blanked off with some type of "blank fuse". The raceway that contained the feeder (110/v 1 hot, 1 neutral #10 x 2) would hit one panel and the second feeder would pass through to hit the panel on the same floor which is the apartment backed up to the first. Some of the apartment's panels (those on the first level) have the 3/4" raceway passing through them to feed up to the second floor.
I should have taken pictures.
We have at one time in the past, combined 2 second floor apartments into one big one. The electrician on the job re-routed the raceway (which was going through the apartment panel on the first floor) around the first floor apartment and since these 2 apartments had their panels fed from the same raceway, it was easy to eliminate one and combine into one panel. We re-wired both apartments with MC cable.
Here is where the trouble started that I must now clean up.
2 different apartments, one right above the other. They took the kitchen from the first floor apartment and turned it into the laundry room for all tennants. The rest of the first floor apartment was combined with the apartment right above it. Soomeone built a starway between the 2 apartments using part of the living room of each.
One crew, about 3 years ago, wired the laundry room. Since they did this, they had to combine what was left of the first floor apartment with the second floor apartment. They installed a 4 circuit GE panel in the second floor apartment but never refed it with up to date code. This panel now has the 4 circuits combined from the 2 apartments plus a dishwasher circuit. 5 circuits in a panel fed by a raceway with 1 #10 110/v circuit and another of the same which passes through this panel to feed the panel for the apartment which it is backed up to.
I must now re-feed this panel with 3 #8's which will come off of the feed through from the main panel in the basement. That in itself is not a problem. That same raceway which I need to feed this panel with also has the #10 110/v circuit passing through it to feed the apartment panel backed up to it.
Not much of a problem on paper. 100' of 8/3 MC with a ground and I can fish and feed the other apartment, then I can use the entire dia. of the 3/4" raceway to re-feed the 4 circuit GE panel. Here is the roadblock. The apartment that I need to feed the MC to has it's panel in the same stud cavity as the apartment below it.
Im gonna have to find an inside wall to fish this MC up, then into the attic and feed this panel from the attic.
The thing that gets me fustrated is, at the time the laundry room was wired, the wall with the panel in it was wide open as well as the wall of the apartment above it. The guy that wired the laundry room no longer works for us.
I know this is a long post and without pictures it may be hard to read and visualize. I will try and take pictures tomorrow.
I should have taken pictures.
We have at one time in the past, combined 2 second floor apartments into one big one. The electrician on the job re-routed the raceway (which was going through the apartment panel on the first floor) around the first floor apartment and since these 2 apartments had their panels fed from the same raceway, it was easy to eliminate one and combine into one panel. We re-wired both apartments with MC cable.
Here is where the trouble started that I must now clean up.
2 different apartments, one right above the other. They took the kitchen from the first floor apartment and turned it into the laundry room for all tennants. The rest of the first floor apartment was combined with the apartment right above it. Soomeone built a starway between the 2 apartments using part of the living room of each.
One crew, about 3 years ago, wired the laundry room. Since they did this, they had to combine what was left of the first floor apartment with the second floor apartment. They installed a 4 circuit GE panel in the second floor apartment but never refed it with up to date code. This panel now has the 4 circuits combined from the 2 apartments plus a dishwasher circuit. 5 circuits in a panel fed by a raceway with 1 #10 110/v circuit and another of the same which passes through this panel to feed the panel for the apartment which it is backed up to.
I must now re-feed this panel with 3 #8's which will come off of the feed through from the main panel in the basement. That in itself is not a problem. That same raceway which I need to feed this panel with also has the #10 110/v circuit passing through it to feed the apartment panel backed up to it.
Not much of a problem on paper. 100' of 8/3 MC with a ground and I can fish and feed the other apartment, then I can use the entire dia. of the 3/4" raceway to re-feed the 4 circuit GE panel. Here is the roadblock. The apartment that I need to feed the MC to has it's panel in the same stud cavity as the apartment below it.
Im gonna have to find an inside wall to fish this MC up, then into the attic and feed this panel from the attic.
The thing that gets me fustrated is, at the time the laundry room was wired, the wall with the panel in it was wide open as well as the wall of the apartment above it. The guy that wired the laundry room no longer works for us.
I know this is a long post and without pictures it may be hard to read and visualize. I will try and take pictures tomorrow.
