Code Article for Equipment Ground splice?

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wrobotronic

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When splicing an EGC is there a requirement in the code that says the splice must be irreversible? I know for GECs this is the case, but wasn’t sure about EGCs.

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How should one respond to being failed for said infraction. I was thinking to ask AHJ for a code reference, which should be done for all failures imo, but unsure. Obviously don’t want to make him mad or look bad. But he is wrong... unless he has a written amendment correct?
 
How should one respond to being failed for said infraction. I was thinking to ask AHJ for a code reference, which should be done for all failures imo, but unsure. Obviously don’t want to make him mad or look bad. But he is wrong... unless he has a written amendment correct?

So an inspector failed an installation for not using irreversible connections on EGC's? Yes ask for a code reference!

Guess that he never heard of these:

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How should one respond to being failed for said infraction. I was thinking to ask AHJ for a code reference, which should be done for all failures imo, but unsure. Obviously don’t want to make him mad or look bad. But he is wrong... unless he has a written amendment correct?

he will not have a written amendment that says EGC must be irreversibly spliced or continuous... Doesn't exist anywhere.

as the code is permissive, you do not need a code section saying you can do something, he needs a code section saying you can't do it.

That said, people and real-world egos are involved, always find it is better to ask an inspector on a citation that is not written out as a code section violation to show me or tell me in the book where it is.

If you come off as confrontational, it is easy for somebody else to get that way as well, if you ask somebody to teach you, it puts the other person in a position to help, and stroke their ego rather than deflate it, or at the very least to help you to not appear like a rectal entryway.

Of course, it largely depends, at least to me anyway, how much time said violation will take to fix, or how ridiculous the false citation is. Not being able to splice an EGC, barring some building code or extremely obscure installation which I am unaware, is so laughable that I would have to fight that one regardless of if I po the inspector.

In addition to Rob's excellent point regarding the green wire nuts, one can also use Wagos, split bolts, Polaris connectors, and so on.
 
What did he actually fail. Certainly not splices of # 12 or 14 in a box ,right?
My run of URD has a 1/0Al ground and I reduced it to a #4 Cu, per T250.122, to fit it on the ground bar (which is not irreversible)...the butt splice is listed for Al and Cu, and the splice is not in the panel either. A 1/0 lug for the bar was not readily available and I believed my install to be compliant...

I can only think he believes it to be a GEC... normally I would fix it and be done, however, it's a 42 mile drive one way in Denver (not a fun drive)...

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My run of URD has a 1/0Al ground and I reduced it to a #4 Cu, per T250.122, to fit it on the ground bar (which is not irreversible)...the butt splice is listed for Al and Cu, and the splice is not in the panel either. A 1/0 lug for the bar was not readily available and I believed my install to be compliant...

I can only think he believes it to be a GEC... normally I would fix it and be done, however, it's a 42 mile drive one way in Denver (not a fun drive)...

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I don't know now, but wouldn't a butt splice be irreversible. You would have to cut it to undo it. Just like the crimps the solar guys use, you can still cut around it.
 
I don't know now, but wouldn't a butt splice be irreversible. You would have to cut it to undo it. Just like the crimps the solar guys use, you can still cut around it.
It's a mechanical butt... hehehe... can be undone with an allen wrench...

Butt jokes are never not funny....

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sounds like a solid connection. Unfortunately.if you can't change his mind, you'll be laughing all the way to Denver:happyno:

Yes... you are correct. I hope my charming personality (some say this is debatable) persuades him to allow it. Honestly though, these types of confrontations make me a nervous wreck. But because of this forum and all of your help, I feel more confident that I can convince him.

Thank you all again as always.
 
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