Commercial kitchen ceiling outlet

[DudeElectric]

I have a client that has a commercial kitchen and they would like to put a plate warmer in the center of their kitchen. It is on Wheels and is movable and the only Outlet is one in the ceiling approximately 10 ft. I can't for the life of me find out what the code is to get power from there too the plate warmer. Could somebody point me in the right direction? I'm fairly certain I can't just run conduit down as it wouldn't be secured at all. The plate warmer is just a 120 plug.

 

[hbiss]

Pendent. Flexible cord with a plug on it secured to the ceiling with a Kellams grip. Drop it down to the required height and put a pendent receptacle box on it for the warmer plug.

-Hal

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I have a client that has a commercial kitchen and they would like to put a plate warmer in the center of their kitchen. It is on Wheels and is movable and the only Outlet is one in the ceiling approximately 10 ft. I can't for the life of me find out what the code is to get power from there too the plate warmer. Could somebody point me in the right direction? I'm fairly certain I can't just run conduit down as it wouldn't be secured at all. The plate warmer is just a 120 plug.

check this short video

 

[James L]

Retractable cord reel.
I've used this one in a commercial kitchen for use over a table on casters

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JQAVFC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[retirede]

Retractable cord reel.
I've used this one in a commercial kitchen for use over a table on casters

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JQAVFC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If the load is significant, I’d make sure they have to completely extend it in order to use it.

 

[ramsy]

Retractable cord reel.
I've used this one in a commercial kitchen for use over a table on casters

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JQAVFC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Several problems here:

* No NRTL with online retailers like Amazon. This one says no UL.
Extension cords require testing, labeling, & listing in the united states.

* Next problem is 15A capacity is not allowed with Small Appliance Branch Circuits.
SABC's in kitchen or Laundry specifically require 20A capacity.
If originating on ceiling, it's likely a 15A circuit intended for lights, not receptacles.

* No GFCI.
SABC's specifically require GFCI protection, and possible AFCI & Tamper Resistance

 

[norcal]

Retractable cord reel.
I've used this one in a commercial kitchen for use over a table on casters

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007JQAVFC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Have to check out the reels closely, some have ratings below the rating of the cable supplied with the reel.

 

[James L]

Several problems here:

* No NRTL with online retailers like Amazon. This one says no UL.
Extension cords require testing, labeling, & listing in the united states.

It has a UL label right on it.
You can see it in the second picture
Where did you see "no UL" ?

* Next problem is 15A capacity is not allowed with Small Appliance Branch Circuits.
SABC's in kitchen or Laundry specifically require 20A capacity.
If originating on ceiling, it's likely a 15A circuit intended for lights, not receptacles.

It was a 20 amp circuit that I installed

* No GFCI.
SABC's specifically require GFCI protection, and possible AFCI & Tamper Resistance

I installed a GFCI breaker

 

[ramsy]

Be careful putting your work in public domains, where your peers can review it.

It has a UL label right on it.
You can see it in the second picture
Where did you see "no UL" ?

Select "User Guide" pull down, see UL = No, in Product Information section of Amazon page.

If you want Red Tag removed show us UL file number, and shipping label return address to check for internet counterfeits.

It was a 20 amp circuit that I installed

If you want Red Tag removed show us a 20A product, then tell us what kind of occupancy & room?

 

[tom baker]

Pendant drops are used at Costco, simple and much less expensive than a cord reel

 

[James L]

Be careful putting your work in public domains, where your peers can review it.

Select "User Guide" pull down, see UL = No, in Product Information section of Amazon page.

I see a UL label on the unit. That's perfect for me

If you want Red Tag removed show us UL file number, and shipping label return address to check for internet counterfeits.

I don't know what red tag you're talking about. This passed inspection

If you want Red Tag removed show us a 20A product, then tell us what kind of occupancy & room?

Again, I don't know what red tag you're talking about. A plug-in cord isn't part of the circuit.

 

[hillbilly1]

UL is not the only listing acceptable. I put in a Level 2 Dc EV charger that was so new, that the listing company came out and did the compliance testing on site, AFTER I installed it. It was not UL, but ETL if I remember correctly. Inspector accepted it.

 

[DudeElectric]

Pendent. Flexible cord with a plug on it secured to the ceiling with a Kellams grip. Drop it down to the required height and put a pendent receptacle box on it for the warmer plug.

-Hal

Any chance you have a code reference mobile can look it up?

 

[hbiss]

Again, I don't know what red tag you're talking about.

He red tagged you.

Any chance you have a code reference mobile can look it up?

There would be a few of them that together apply here. Flexible cordage uses, support of the drop from the ceiling and the receptacle box at the end.

-Hal