Commercial occupancy switch and mechanical rooms

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dm9289

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My belief is mechanical rooms or rooms that house electrical panels can have an occupancy switch, but it must have manual override. However, I may be wrong and can't find code ref help appreciated.

I also believe in commercial you can have occupancy sensors but they must be used with a switch so they could be manually operated. Or am I full of beans?

I will continue looking thru my 2017 NEC any help would be great
 

dm9289

Industrial Maintenance Electrician
Location
Pennsylvania
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Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
My belief is mechanical rooms or rooms that house electrical panels can have an occupancy switch, but it must have manual override. However, I may be wrong and can't find code ref help appreciated.

I also believe in commercial you can have occupancy sensors but they must be used with a switch so they could be manually operated. Or am I full of beans?

I will continue looking thru my 2017 NEC any help would be great
110.26D seems to help with working space (Automatic means only shall not be permitted)
 

hillbilly1

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Might well be an OSHA requirement too. I would not be happy working in a switchgear, and the lights suddenly go off! I met with a customer that is a large, public business supply warehouse chain that was looking for ways to save energy to be “Green”, and they wanted to use motion sensors in the electrical room. Convinced them it was not a good idea. They still went with turning off the nightlights and exit signs while the store was closed. Not that much of a savings vs cost of implementing.
 

dm9289

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Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
Might well be an OSHA requirement too. I would not be happy working in a switchgear, and the lights suddenly go off! I met with a customer that is a large, public business supply warehouse chain that was looking for ways to save energy to be “Green”, and they wanted to use motion sensors in the electrical room. Convinced them it was not a good idea. They still went with turning off the nightlights and exit signs while the store was closed. Not that much of a savings vs cost of implementing.
I know there is some energy code related to this but very stumped that NEC does not address.
 

dm9289

Industrial Maintenance Electrician
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Pennsylvania
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Industrial process repair/ maintenance Electrician
Might well be an OSHA requirement too. I would not be happy working in a switchgear, and the lights suddenly go off! I met with a customer that is a large, public business supply warehouse chain that was looking for ways to save energy to be “Green”, and they wanted to use motion sensors in the electrical room. Convinced them it was not a good idea. They still went with turning off the nightlights and exit signs while the store was closed. Not that much of a savings vs cost of implementing.
110.26D will cover workspace area but the remainder of lighting I have had no luck so far
 

steve66

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Illinois
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I've always felt that if there is a true override switch (one that completely bypasses the occupancy sensor, which is what I believe NEC 110.26(D) requires), then there just isn't any point in having the occ sensor because 90% of the maintenance people will turn that bypass switch on and never turn it off again.
 

Steve16

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Ct
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2021 IECC requires lighting controls in dwellings now. Your choice dimmer or occ sensor. Nothing like rolling over in the middle of the night and having the lights turn on

It's even worse for commercial. The short, put occ sensors everywhere with almost no exceptions. We had a laser dermatology place change out lights and switches and had to tell them occ sensors were required by code.....
 

PD1972

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New York (2017 NEC)
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engineer
As noted in previous posts, the governing code would be the energy conservation code adopted by your jurisdiction. You will have to look up what energy code is adopted based on your location for specifics. All references that I will be making will be based on the 2018 IECC as that is what NYS adopts (and what I am most familiar with). I will also be assuming you are talking about commercial buildings and not residential.

My belief is mechanical rooms or rooms that house electrical panels can have an occupancy switch, but it must have manual override. However, I may be wrong and can't find code ref help appreciated.
NEC 110.26(D) specifically bans the usage of occupancy switches for working space illumination. Per the 2018 IECC, mechanical rooms/electrical rooms are also not required to have occupancy sensors. Refer to C405.2.1 for the list of locations that are required to have occupancy sensors. Because mechanical rooms/electrical rooms are not specifically required to have occupancy sensors, there is no requirement to have the manual override.

Essentially the way the 2018 IECC reads is that occupancy sensors are required in the interior spaces noted in C405.2.1. For all other interior spaces, time switch controls (AKA time clock) is required as noted by C405.2.2. However, there are exceptions listed in C405.2.2 for certain spaces where time switch control is also not required. If you fall under those exceptions, then both occupancy sensors and time clock are not required. However, in order to fall under those exceptions, a means to provide light reduction is required (ie, dimming or bi-level switching).

When designing the lighting controls for electrical/mechanical rooms, I utilize the "automatic shutoff would endanger occupant safety or security" exception per C405.2.2. For the most part, I only specify a toggle switch without light reduction methods. I know technically I am not satisfying the IECC, but nobody in their right mind will be dimming lights in an electrical/mechanical room. I have yet to be challenged by a contractor or AHJ. However, If I wanted to design to the letter-of-the law, then I would add either dimming or bi-level switching (but I don't because that's stupid).

I also believe in commercial you can have occupancy sensors but they must be used with a switch so they could be manually operated. Or am I full of beans?
For the most part, yes. If you have occ. sensors then you need manual control somewhere to allow for the lights to turn off manually per C405.2.1.1(3). Lights may be turned on automatically under certain conditions. Refer to C405.2.1.1(2) for when automatic-on is allowable. Note that the switch does not necessarily have to be in the same space as the lights.
 
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