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Company with no electrical drawings/records

Pulwuj

New User
Location
Santa Rosa CA
Occupation
Electromechanical Engineer
Currently working as an Electromechanical Engineer for a nameless company. I was initially hired to design low voltage automation lines and help install them in the field with electricians and technicians, something I'm fairly experienced with.
After a few months I quickly realized this company doesn't have load calculations for any of their panels that I'm aware of and no accessible digital/hard copies of their panel schedules or electrical layouts. On top of this the current technical director is instructing me to basically do planless installs which would essentially add on to the undocumented mess that is this facility.
Besides consulting NFPA 70 for guidance on any new projects, what would be the best course of action (besides saying no) to start documenting the electrical in this building safely and effectively?
My first thought would be doing individual load calculations for each machine circuit by circuit then documenting in AutoCAD (what I've done in the past) but doing this alone will take time and justification. The justification is obvious (from my perspective) but I can't seem to convince the management to actually let me or an outside contractor start this process. I've never dealt with this level of incompetence or maybe just a lack of understanding but I'd like to hear some perspective or advice from anyone here.
 

petersonra

Senior Member
Location
Northern illinois
Occupation
engineer
I don't see AutoCAD as the most cost effective way to document such things. A spreadsheet is a lot faster and easier to update, and just about anyone can use excel.

I would not get real excited about such things. The load calcs just don't matter much after the place is built.
 

jim dungar

Moderator
Staff member
Location
Wisconsin
Occupation
PE (Retired) - Power Systems
If you are concerned about justifying drawings, not just load calcs, look into NFPA 70E which address electrical safety in the work place versus the NEC which is geared toward electrical installation/construction.
 

don_resqcapt19

Moderator
Staff member
Location
Illinois
Occupation
retired electrician
You really need all of the documentation to be compliant with the markings required in 70E. Some insurance companies want to see those labels, and if there is ever an injury from an electrical incident, OSHA will want to see all of the documentation of the distribution system.
 

petersonra

Senior Member
Location
Northern illinois
Occupation
engineer
I don't think the load calcs are much of a safety issue. You should have some kind of documentation as to the available short circuit current and incident energy though. That's a lot harder to come by.
 
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