Compliant or not? You make the call

[ivsenroute]

*Hot tub installed outdoors.
*50A GFCI breaker in main panel inside the home.
*6/3 NM runs inside the home and terminated inside a properly placed disconnect within site of the hot tub.
*From the disco 6/3 UF is properly protected and runs to the hot tub.

All wiring is correct and the hot tub functions.

Is there a problem with this install?

The answer is within the information given, not what was not given. No bonding issues, not disconnect issues. What say you?

 

[iwire]

You're not digging the EGC in the UF?

 

[Aledrell]

I'm not code book thumper, but pratical experience makes me scratch my head about the UF for some reason I don't like it.

 

[augie47]

Seems from 680.42 the hotub would need to be connected by LFMC, LFNMC, or Cord & Plug.

 

[JFletcher]

680.21(a)(1)?

 

[480sparky]

680.21(a)(1)?

It's not a pool.

Seems from 680.42 the hotub would need to be connected by LFMC, LFNMC, or Cord & Plug.

So what's wrong with UF in either one of those?

 

[JFletcher]

It's not a pool.

True, but does not 680.42 make 680.21 apply?

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

680.42 tells me "that would otherwise apply to pools installed outdoor"

I think it violates the code as per conduit and insulated green conductor

 

[mcclary's electrical]

Does it have lights? The EGC needs to be insulated

 

[guschash]

Is that 6-3 withground wire or 6-3 without.

 

[ivsenroute]

680.21(a)(1)?

Yes, this applies. It meets the definition of Pool in the NEC. Nice catch JFletcher

 

[malty]

No book in front of me but I think the EGC has to be insulated. NM ok inside but outside should be in conduit and the last 6ft can be liquit tite.

 

[ivsenroute]

No book in front of me but I think the EGC has to be insulated. NM ok inside but outside should be in conduit and the last 6ft can be liquit tite.

Yes, hence the reference to 680

 

[JFletcher]

Yes, this applies. It meets the definition of Pool in the NEC. Nice catch JFletcher

Thank you.

 

[yired29]

No book in front of me but I think the EGC has to be insulated. NM ok inside but outside should be in conduit and the last 6ft can be liquit tite.

NM cable is not allowed in wet locations. IMHO disconnect or raceway installed in a wet location is still a wet location inside of disconnect and raceway. Thats the way I understand this. You would have to change to a wet location wire THWN or any other W rated wire before going outside.

 

[Oakey]

No book in front of me but I think the EGC has to be insulated. NM ok inside but outside should be in conduit and the last 6ft can be liquit tite.

This is my guess also

 

[480sparky]

NM cable is not allowed in wet locations. ............

Only if you're on the '08.

 

[iwire]

Only if you're on the '08.

I can not agree there, IMO the 2008 NEC clarified an existing rule.

 

[yired29]

Only if you're on the '08.

Maybe I'm wrong but 334.10 (A) 1
For both exposed and concealed work in normally dry locations except as prohibited in 334.10 (3). NEC 2005
Did I miss something?

 

[480sparky]

I can not agree there, IMO the 2008 NEC clarified an existing rule.

What rule would that have been?