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Jim W in Tampa

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Had a good one today . Wifes mouse allmost caused a fire. Seems usb cord got pinched somehow. It stop working and when i went checking found the cord very hot as it shorted out. Never gave thought to usb ports having that much power. Problem fixed she got a new mouse ,will let the cat have the old one
 
Standard USB is 5V DC. It limited to something less than an amp I think, given enough time I guess it can be dangerous, I wouldn't have thunk it.
 
Makes me wonder if that computer had of been plugged into a receptacle that was protected by a combination afci breaker would it have interrupted the circuit at any point?? One brand of afci breaker devices labels all its big box individual packaged afci breakers with the word "Fireguard"....
 
I doubt it. The power supply in the computer is going to isolate any 5V or 12V shorts issues from the 120V supply.

You can start a fire with a D cell and steel wool. You can start a fire with a 4 watt nightlight. A USB mouse should be no different, but I don't know how much power a USB port can supply.
 
Interesting. A quick search says that up to 5 amps is possible on a USB port. Wow!

From this site:

http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/an_pk/3241/

I learned:

"With any standard, it's interesting to see how actual practice diverges from the printed spec or how undefined parts of the spec take shape. Though USB is, with little doubt, one of the best thought out, reliable, and useful standards efforts in quite some time, it has not been immune to the impact of the real world. Some observed USB characteristics that may not be obvious, yet can influence power designs, are:

USB ports do NOT limit current. Though the USB spec provides details about how much current a USB port must supply, there are mile-wide limits on how much it might supply. Though the upper limit specifies that the current never exceed 5A, but a wise designer should not rely on that. In any case, a USB port can never be counted on to limit its output current to 500mA, or any amount near that. In fact, output current from a port often exceeds several Amps since multi-port systems (like PCs) frequently have only one protection device for all ports in the system. The protection device is set above the TOTAL power rating of all the ports. So a four-port system may supply over 2A from one port if the other ports are not loaded. Furthermore, while some PCs use 10-20% accurate IC-based protection, other will use much less accurate poly-fuses (fuses that reset themselves) that will not trip until the load is 100% or more above the rating.

USB Ports rarely (never) turn off power: The USB spec is not specific about this, but it is sometimes believed that USB power may be disconnected as a result of failed enumeration, or other software or firmware problems. In actual practice, no USB host shuts off USB power for anything other that an electrical fault (like a short). There may an exception to this statement, but I have yet to see it. Notebook and motherboard makers are barely willing to pay for fault protection, let alone smart power switching. So no matter what dialog takes place (or does not take place) between a USB peripheral and host, 5V (at either 500mA or 100mA, or even maybe 2A or more) will be available. This is born out by the appearance in the market of USB powered reading lights, coffee mug warmers, and other similar items that have no communication capability. They may not be "compliant," but they do function."
 
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