Conduit as a Support

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Zaphod said:
Our safety people are wanting to hang LOTO placards in various places, including hanging them from some conduits. Does article 300.11(B) prevent them from doing this?
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The words say yes... but will it really prevent them from doing so?
 
the key words would appear to be:

(B) Raceways Used as Means of Support. Raceways
shall be used only as a means of support for other raceways,
cables, or nonelectrical equipment under any of the
following conditions:
(1) Where the raceway or means of support is identified for
the purpose
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A placard is not a raceway or cable. Whether it is non-electrical equipment is something else. I might argue a sign telling you how to lockout electrical equipment is part of the electrical equipment just as nameplates are.

Identified (as applied to equipment). Recognizable as
suitable for the specific purpose, function, use, environment,
application, and so forth, where described in a particular
Code requirement.
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If you decide a LOTO sign is electrical equipment, the next question on being identified is just who would do the identifying. Just who is going to argue a piece of conduit is not suitable for hanging this kind of sign? How is this any different than using the conduit to support paint when you paint it?
 
petersonra said:
the key words would appear to be:



A placard is not a raceway or cable. Whether it is non-electrical equipment is something else. I might argue a sign telling you how to lockout electrical equipment is part of the electrical equipment just as nameplates are.



If you decide a LOTO sign is electrical equipment, the next question on being identified is just who would do the identifying. Just who is going to argue a piece of conduit is not suitable for hanging this kind of sign? How is this any different than using the conduit to support paint when you paint it?
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The real question is why not put the LOTO placards (or use labels instead) on the equipment that gets LOTO?
 
petersonra said:
the key words would appear to be:



A placard is not a raceway or cable. Whether it is non-electrical equipment is something else. I might argue a sign telling you how to lockout electrical equipment is part of the electrical equipment just as nameplates are.



If you decide a LOTO sign is electrical equipment, the next question on being identified is just who would do the identifying. Just who is going to argue a piece of conduit is not suitable for hanging this kind of sign? How is this any different than using the conduit to support paint when you paint it?
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I'm not so sure that this applies. The section you quoted is for raceways used as supports not things supported from raceways.
 
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