mstrlucky74
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What exactly make a mogul different than another conduit body? Size? Thanks,
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Yes size typically they are longer.
mstrlucky74
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What are the parameters that deems a conduit body a mogul?
electrofelon
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I believe a mogul meets the full distance required between entries. The typical LB fitting gets away with less due to the "smaller dimensions" clause if listed and marked by the manufacturer with size and quantity of conductors.
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Many of the moguls also do not meet the requirements of 314.28 and rely on the "smaller dimension" rule for larger conductors.
electrofelon
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Ok. I have actually never used or even seen a mogul in the wild. Do they allow the max conductor fill for the raceway size, unlike a regular LB?
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Some do, but most don't.
growler
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I learn something new every day. I hope I'm not running out of storage space.
Here's an example of an LB which would allow the same fill as a conduit due to the fact that when you remove the cover there is no "opposite wall".
The one pictured is a NEC LB 6X by Appleton
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The one pictured is a NEC LB 6X by Appleton
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Folks tell me that's one of my problems. They call it the "full bucket syndrome".
Take a 5 gal bucket, fill it, then add more water. The water you add just flows out of the bucket.
Same thing happens to me as the Code changes. Sometimes I remember a '93 Code change as current
electrofelon
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Dammit! So I guess all we can say is a mogul is basically an LB that might be little larger......
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In my opinion that needs to meet the 6 x rule just like any other fitting. I assume. based on the part number, that it does meet the 6 x rule and that is why it can have the same fill as the conduit. I don't believe that all of the conduit bodies of that design meet the 6 x rule.Here's an example of an LB which would allow the same fill as a conduit due to the fact that when you remove the cover there is no "opposite wall".
The one pictured is a NEC LB 6X by Appleton
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electrofelon
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On the same topic: Just this week I had a 2.5 PVC run with 4X250 conductors. I pulled up a spec sheet for a Cantex LB to check conductor fill and they said "max 3X500MCM" Picked up one, but a different brand, and it was labeled "3X250 MCM." I kinda think that was a typo. Why such a huge disparity? There was tons of room in there and I am pretty sure it wasnt any smaller than the cantex one.
According to the cut sheet they do meet the 6X (8X for C) rule.
The fact that once the cover is removed there is no "opposing wall" makes pulls a lot easier.
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But not all of the Reddot ones of the same design meet the 6 X rule. Their documentation shows the 6 x from the outside end of the fitting to the center of the other conduit entry. That does not meet the rule as it is written.
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Perhaps it is more expensive to have it officially tested for the listing label, and they chose the cheaper test?
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