garrisonm1
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Are you allowed to splice in a condulet such as an LB?
condulets
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goldstar
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Re: condulets
Absolutely not !!!
Absolutely not !!!
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Re: condulets
2002 314.16(C)(2) allows splicing in conduit bodys if there are marked with their volume and you use table 314.16(B) to calculate the number of conductors
2002 314.16(C)(2) allows splicing in conduit bodys if there are marked with their volume and you use table 314.16(B) to calculate the number of conductors
bphgravity
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Re: condulets
Sorry GoldStar, I disagree. 314.16(C)(2) states that splices, taps or devices may be within conduit bodies that are durably and legibly marked by the manufactirer with their volume, and the fill shall be calculated in accordance to 314.16(B).
Sorry GoldStar, I disagree. 314.16(C)(2) states that splices, taps or devices may be within conduit bodies that are durably and legibly marked by the manufactirer with their volume, and the fill shall be calculated in accordance to 314.16(B).
renosteinke
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Re: condulets
Goldstar- don't feel bad; it used to be "no;" that was before they started marking the volume on them. Indeed, older ones often had ceramic covers, with holes in them- so of course you wouldn't want to splice there.
Roger- I remember those devices; know anyone who makes them still?
Goldstar- don't feel bad; it used to be "no;" that was before they started marking the volume on them. Indeed, older ones often had ceramic covers, with holes in them- so of course you wouldn't want to splice there.
Roger- I remember those devices; know anyone who makes them still?
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Re: condulets
I saw a condulet fitting in a mfg catalog last week, for edison base lamp. Probably was Crouse Hinds.
I saw a condulet fitting in a mfg catalog last week, for edison base lamp. Probably was Crouse Hinds.
goldstar
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Re: condulets
This is why I love this forum..........you learn something new every day. I'm from the old school and was taught never to splice in one of these fittings. I still think, at least from the standpoint of quality workmanship, that you shouldn't.
Now, I don't mean to open up another can of worms but why would you splice in an LB ?
This is why I love this forum..........you learn something new every day. I'm from the old school and was taught never to splice in one of these fittings. I still think, at least from the standpoint of quality workmanship, that you shouldn't.
Now, I don't mean to open up another can of worms but why would you splice in an LB ?
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Re: condulets
I am with you on that Goldstar, I just said it was code compliant but I have never done it, and except for devices as Roger pointed out I do not think I would.
To get the volume necessary most times you would have to upsize the conduit body in the middle of a run.
I am with you on that Goldstar, I just said it was code compliant but I have never done it, and except for devices as Roger pointed out I do not think I would.
To get the volume necessary most times you would have to upsize the conduit body in the middle of a run.
bphgravity
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Re: condulets
This allowance can be very convenient on long runs in tight or high traffic areas. The conduit bodies provide a pull point and a splice point at the end of a roll of wire. The finsished job looks very streamline, and others are less likely to try to "tap" into the circuit to feed some other device or equipment, as they might with a box. This becomes especially convenient with signal and control circuits.
This allowance can be very convenient on long runs in tight or high traffic areas. The conduit bodies provide a pull point and a splice point at the end of a roll of wire. The finsished job looks very streamline, and others are less likely to try to "tap" into the circuit to feed some other device or equipment, as they might with a box. This becomes especially convenient with signal and control circuits.
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Re: condulets
I don't have any of my old code books here at work, but I think at one time there was a code rule that said you could not make splices in coduit bodies that less than 3 conduit entries.
Don
I don't have any of my old code books here at work, but I think at one time there was a code rule that said you could not make splices in coduit bodies that less than 3 conduit entries.
Don
roger deas
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Re: condulets
Reno, I found them in the Appelton catalog.
Tom, the edison base cover you mentioned would be cat# KLR50 or KLR75 for Appelton.
Roger
Reno, I found them in the Appelton catalog.
Tom, the edison base cover you mentioned would be cat# KLR50 or KLR75 for Appelton.
Roger
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Re: condulets
As far as I know that would be 4 wires.
[ August 08, 2003, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
As far as I know that would be 4 wires.
[ August 08, 2003, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
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bthielen
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Re: condulets
In the machinery manufacturing industry such as what I am involved, we spliced in condulets. This proved to be very messy and we have since changed our design standards to not allow this practice and remain compliant with code. We are now of the opinion that if it is necessary to splice, use an approved j-box, whether the condulet is approved for splicing or not. A j-box or other approved enclosure also makes finding potential splices easier. When they can be found in just about any condulet, troubleshooting problems can become a nightmare.
Bob
In the machinery manufacturing industry such as what I am involved, we spliced in condulets. This proved to be very messy and we have since changed our design standards to not allow this practice and remain compliant with code. We are now of the opinion that if it is necessary to splice, use an approved j-box, whether the condulet is approved for splicing or not. A j-box or other approved enclosure also makes finding potential splices easier. When they can be found in just about any condulet, troubleshooting problems can become a nightmare.
Bob
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