cord drop in commercial kitchen

[localpunks]

Can cord drop be installed in a commercial kitchen?
I am using strain relief and moisture resistant cord caps.
I think yes. Am I correct?

 

[chevyx92]

Can cord drop be installed in a commercial kitchen?
I am using strain relief and moisture resistant cord caps.
I think yes. Am I correct?

Nothing prohibits what you have mentioned.

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

They will need gfci protection

 

[chevyx92]

They will need gfci protection

He didn't ask if that was required.

 

[chevyx92]

They will need gfci protection

And what if they weren't 120v? Then he wouldn't. Too much assuming, just go off the OP question.

 

[brother]

They will need gfci protection

that depends on their rating, (125 volt, 15 and 20 amp) 210.7(B) NEC 2005

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

And what if they weren't 120v? Then he wouldn't. Too much assuming, just go off the OP question.

Now thats something that maybe needs looked into as a proposal,sure would be just as big of shock hazard

 

[LarryFine]

I once installed a retractable cord reel on a kitchen ceiling for occasional-use appliances. It plugs into a GFCI receptacle in the ceiling, and I disassembled it and shgortened the cord so it would have to be extended all the way to be used.

 

[benaround]

I once installed a retractable cord reel on a kitchen ceiling for occasional-use appliances. It plugs into a GFCI receptacle in the ceiling, and I disassembled it and shgortened the cord so it would have to be extended all the way to be used.

Well I would say that was real nice of you.

 

[benaround]

Can cord drop be installed in a commercial kitchen?
I am using strain relief and moisture resistant cord caps.
I think yes. Am I correct?

localpunk, Not enough info---

You would need a recpt. in the cieling (if 120v GFCI ), the cord would need

a male cap @ cieling as well as a strain relief device, same for female cap

at lower location. NEC 2005 400.7(B) and 400.10

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

localpunk, Not enough info---

You would need a recpt. in the cieling (if 120v GFCI ), the cord would need

a male cap @ cieling as well as a strain relief device, same for female cap

at lower location. NEC 2005 400.7(B) and 400.10

He could use gfci breaker or run it as a slave off another gfci receptacle

 

[iwire]

localpunk, Not enough info---

You would need a recpt. in the cieling (if 120v GFCI ), the cord would need

a male cap @ cieling as well as a strain relief device, same for female cap

at lower location. NEC 2005 400.7(B) and 400.10

I am not follwing you, why would he need a male cap on the cord?

 

[ultramegabob]

I am not follwing you, why would he need a male cap on the cord?

I think his idea is to install something like a twistlock recept in the ceiling and make a short cord with a twistlock male cord cap on one end and a female cord cap on the other to plug the kitchen equiment into.

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

I think his idea is to install something like a twistlock recept in the ceiling and make a short cord with a twistlock male cord cap on one end and a female cord cap on the other to plug the kitchen equiment into.

Yes ,but why would he do this ?

 

[ultramegabob]

Yes ,but why would he do this ?

I dont know, I just think thats what he is saying to do

 

[M. D.]

I am not follwing you, why would he need a male cap on the cord?

well ,.if this one of the uses found in 400.7(A)(3),(6) (8) then 400.7 (B) would kick in

 

[glene77is]

Speaking of 210.7.B,
we just installed several "equipment" recepticals
in a commercial bar with sinks, wine, beer, compressed liquid feeds from the basement, as part of a restaurant.

We were to install two single 125V recepticals, "NO" GFCI protection.

I think it is a code violation, by way of the 'wet location' rule,
but my master thinks it is ok since each receptical is for one piece of equipment.

Everything else is duplex recepticals, no GFCI.

Comments please.

glene77is

 

[rcarroll]

Is your installation in a kitchen as defined by 210.8(B)(2) ? The 2005 code doesn't require GFI w/i 6' of a commercial sink. The 2008 does. It looks to me that the installation is code compliant to the '05 code.:wink:

 

[raider1]

I once installed a retractable cord reel on a kitchen ceiling for occasional-use appliances. It plugs into a GFCI receptacle in the ceiling, and I disassembled it and shgortened the cord so it would have to be extended all the way to be used.

I installed a small section of busway with multiple cord drops in a commercial bakery kitchen once.

Chris

 

[glene77is]

Regarding the Commercial Bar with sinks, and GFCI requirements.

Is your installation in a kitchen as defined by 210.8(B)(2) ? The 2005 code doesn't require GFI w/i 6' of a commercial sink. The 2008 does. It looks to me that the installation is code compliant to the '05 code.:wink:

Thanks for the comment. I will check it out.
The master says it is to pass the AHJ, may be local code, is not NEC.