Counter top receptacles in Dining Room
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Re: Counter top receptacles in Dining Room
Article 210.8 does not say countertops in dining rooms. That countertop would not be required to be GFCI protected. It is over the min. 12", so it is required to have a receptacle, just not a GFCI receptacle.
Article 210.8 does not say countertops in dining rooms. That countertop would not be required to be GFCI protected. It is over the min. 12", so it is required to have a receptacle, just not a GFCI receptacle.
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A counter top in a dining room does not have to be gfci protected,and the 12 inch rule does not apply to it.But it must be on a 20 amp circuit same as the other receptacles in the dining room,and be spaced as if it was a wall.So if you have a receptacle on either side of the cabinets/counter area then all you would have to have is one (min.) Since a counter top in a dining area will probably used for serving I always add a few extra receptacles for convience
A counter top in a dining room does not have to be gfci protected,and the 12 inch rule does not apply to it.But it must be on a 20 amp circuit same as the other receptacles in the dining room,and be spaced as if it was a wall.So if you have a receptacle on either side of the cabinets/counter area then all you would have to have is one (min.) Since a counter top in a dining area will probably used for serving I always add a few extra receptacles for convience
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Re: Counter top receptacles in Dining Room
The same spacing requirements for kitchen counters are required for dining room counters as well.
[ November 12, 2003, 05:06 AM: Message edited by: iwire ]
The same spacing requirements for kitchen counters are required for dining room counters as well.
No GFCIs required unless there is a wet bar sink in that dinning room counter.
[ November 12, 2003, 05:06 AM: Message edited by: iwire ]
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Re: Counter top receptacles in Dining Room
I agree that the receptacles in a diningroom countertop location are required to have the same spacing as a kitchen countertop location. I also agree about the GFCI requirement for wet bar Receptacles within 6ft of the wet bar sink. But... lets say there is a sink in the dining countertop and it is not a wet bar. Would the 'minimum' requirement require that a GFCI protected receptacle be installed at the dining countertop location?
Pierre
I agree that the receptacles in a diningroom countertop location are required to have the same spacing as a kitchen countertop location. I also agree about the GFCI requirement for wet bar Receptacles within 6ft of the wet bar sink. But... lets say there is a sink in the dining countertop and it is not a wet bar. Would the 'minimum' requirement require that a GFCI protected receptacle be installed at the dining countertop location?
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Re: Counter top receptacles in Dining Room
Seriously Pierre what kind of question is that. Define wet bar.
Seriously Pierre what kind of question is that. Define wet bar.
pierre
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Re: Counter top receptacles in Dining Room
Scott
Actually I am not qualified to define what a wet bar is, but I would say it is a bar area for storing and preparing drinks (alcoholic) that also has a sink.
My question was/is, lets say the dining countertop has a sink in it with no provisions for liquour storage around it. Would you require a GFCI at that countertop space?
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Scott
Actually I am not qualified to define what a wet bar is, but I would say it is a bar area for storing and preparing drinks (alcoholic) that also has a sink.
My question was/is, lets say the dining countertop has a sink in it with no provisions for liquour storage around it. Would you require a GFCI at that countertop space?
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A lot can depend on how the architect labels the sink on the blueprints. If it's labeled "wet bar" then it's a wet bar. If it's labeled "vegetable prep sink" then it's not a wet bar sink.
I remember a large residential pool caba?a that had a Jenn-Air range. Labeling it "stove" would have made the caba?a technically an in-law unit (and in-law units were not permitted in that jurisdiction). By labeling the Jenn-Air as an "electric bar-be-que grill" and by labeling the large dressing rooms "dressing rooms" (instead of labeling them bedrooms) the homeowner was able to skate and build a fully equipped caba?a without it being rejected as an in-law unit. In fact by labeling the project as a swimming pool caba?a that helped a lot to set the stage for the alternative nomenclature.
Sometimes it's all in the nomenclature-- regardless of the actual end use.
A lot can depend on how the architect labels the sink on the blueprints. If it's labeled "wet bar" then it's a wet bar. If it's labeled "vegetable prep sink" then it's not a wet bar sink.
I remember a large residential pool caba?a that had a Jenn-Air range. Labeling it "stove" would have made the caba?a technically an in-law unit (and in-law units were not permitted in that jurisdiction). By labeling the Jenn-Air as an "electric bar-be-que grill" and by labeling the large dressing rooms "dressing rooms" (instead of labeling them bedrooms) the homeowner was able to skate and build a fully equipped caba?a without it being rejected as an in-law unit. In fact by labeling the project as a swimming pool caba?a that helped a lot to set the stage for the alternative nomenclature.
Sometimes it's all in the nomenclature-- regardless of the actual end use.
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