Crap parts

AC\DC

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Florence,Oregon,Lane
Occupation
EC
5 Legrand gfci bad out of box-
Cadet two pole thermostats only lasting 1.5 years.
WAC downlight bad out of box-6
Quad br breaker bad after a year.
This is all in one month of service.
Is it just me or is everything just *6*5# garage
Supply house tells me I am only one calling about problems.

I tell him I am the only one stingy enough to return crap, others probably just toss and call it a day.

I hate products today just garbage
 
It drives me nuts, and it’s not just you.

I did a large custom home and out of a dozen or so 3 way switches, 7 were bad. Took them back to the supply house and brought my meter in to show him with the ohm meter how one side was dead. Said he’d never seen it and hadn’t had any other customers bring them back.

Installed some cabinets in a remodel the other day, not my usual work, but whatever pays the bills, bought some expensive torx head cabinet screws, and the heads stripped out constantly. Biggest garbage screws I’ve ever used. And they weren’t fro Big Box Mart either

Milwaukee tools are crap, batteries don’t last, Plygem doors are miss bored, windows are warped, and I won’t even start on lumber and siding.

😡
 
It drives me nuts, and it’s not just you.

I did a large custom home and out of a dozen or so 3 way switches, 7 were bad. Took them back to the supply house and brought my meter in to show him with the ohm meter how one side was dead. Said he’d never seen it and hadn’t had any other customers bring them back.

Installed some cabinets in a remodel the other day, not my usual work, but whatever pays the bills, bought some expensive torx head cabinet screws, and the heads stripped out constantly. Biggest garbage screws I’ve ever used. And they weren’t fro Big Box Mart either

Milwaukee tools are crap, batteries don’t last, Plygem doors are miss bored, windows are warped, and I won’t even start on lumber and siding.

😡
Omg Milwaukee was good about 10 years ago I worked in a pot ash plants and those tools lasted all that salt and normal rain lasted like 6 years.
New crap gone in two years.
Glad I am not the only one I’ll return the crap one way or another. I got 15 bad two pole thermostats less than 2 years. There past the warranty but that does not stop me swapping them for the new 15 I’ll buy tomorrow lol.
I feel it’s just going to get worse. Since society just cares about cheap and not about longevity.
I like my older 60 washer that still works vs my moms new one that needs work every year
 
What gets me going.
I trying to open a lighting and hardware store.
Trying to give customer a good product.
So…..
Lighting is WAC I like that all there drivers are external and can be repaired but it I put a new light up and it goes bad in a month it looks really bad on me.
Legrand trying to push there adorn classy product. Trying to justice this nice product and I get to customer home and well shit they all don’t work lol looks bad on me…..
I want American lighting…..
Looking at Hubbard forge….. have you priced that crap I mean it’s bronze and actual crystal but my community won’t buy a 4k light fixture,, I might lol.
Either way thank for the rant.
 
5 Legrand gfci bad out of box-
Cadet two pole thermostats only lasting 1.5 years.
WAC downlight bad out of box-6
Quad br breaker bad after a year.
This is all in one month of service.
Is it just me or is everything just *6*5# garage
Supply house tells me I am only one calling about problems.

I tell him I am the only one stingy enough to return crap, others probably just toss and call it a day.

I hate products today just garbage
Seen big increase since the "BIG shut down" a couple of years ago of garbage products. Also more "fake" or just plain junk being shipped in from foreign suppliers.
AFA supply house saying "you're the only one" is not likely, but there will be some installers who just put in another one without going back the the supply house, thinking "it's only one or 2 switches out of maybe 20 or more" so not worth the time to go back to complain. And without physical product returns and refunds the supply house won't actually take notice either.
 
Seen big increase since the "BIG shut down" a couple of years ago of garbage products. Also more "fake" or just plain junk being shipped in from foreign suppliers.
AFA supply house saying "you're the only one" is not likely, but there will be some installers who just put in another one without going back the the supply house, thinking "it's only one or 2 switches out of maybe 20 or more" so not worth the time to go back to complain. And without physical product returns and refunds the supply house won't actually take notice either.
Pretty much agree with this. Bigger ticket items got returned, not the 79-cent switch.
 
hate products today just garbage
Supply houses that charge re-stocking fees wont see enough returns to identify quality-control issues.

After refusing to install Amazon discount brands that fell apart, my favorite supply house ignored my complaints, put all of it back on the shelf for the next sucker, and never saw me buying devices there again.

Cheap unskilled labor is fine, if forced to keep track returns, but if returns are discouraged with restocking fees, quality control is not the goal.
 
Supply houses that charge re-stocking fees wont see enough returns to identify quality-control issues.

After refusing to install Amazon discount brands that fell apart, my favorite supply house ignored my complaints, put all of it back on the shelf for the next sucker, and never saw me buying devices there again.

Cheap unskilled labor is fine, if forced to keep track returns, but if returns are discouraged with restocking fees, quality control is not the goal.
I’ve never heard of any seller charging a restocking fee for the return of defective items.
 
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