Curious about sleeved SEU

[Towzzer]

What do the rules say regarding this install.
2 1/2 rigid mast service stops say 2 feet above meter pan. 4 seu comes out and is attached to the wall with approved device. goes into the meter pan with a compression fitting (seu type). To me it seems to make a height requirement for the drop this was done. Is this 10 foot open ended piece of rigid considered a sleeve?

 

[LarryFine]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Being unterminated, I would say yes, it is a sleeve. Is there a bushing on the lower end?

 

[Towzzer]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

It's a SEU compression connector with a bushing inside the meter and a s-load of duct seal on the outside, Honestly looks clean but feels like it's a violation

 

[infinity]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Although short lengths of conduit may be used as sleeves I would be concerned with a 10' length of rigid conduit that is ungrounded and contains service entrance cable. Could it possibly become energized?

 

[LawnGuyLandSparky]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Sounds like the SEU is unprotected for that 2' above the meter pan. Here it would be a violation to have that gap here, but not an NEC violation as the inspector doesn't look at anything pre-meter. That's considered the utility's jurisdiction.

I've been in areas of Upstate NY, Pennsylvania and Connecticut and Mass where the SEU is totally exposed, no sleeve at all, above the meter, sometimes installed quite a distance and traversing a few eves and soffits until it gets to the POE.

I've also seen SEU and SER run unsleeved and unprotected for some distances below the meter as well, in the aforementioned areas.

Different strokes for different AHJ's I suppose...

 

[iwire]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Originally posted by LawnGuyLandSparky:
I've also seen SEU and SER run unsleeved and unprotected for some distances below the meter as well, in the aforementioned areas.

Different strokes for different AHJ's I suppose...

Why not, SE is after all service entrance cable.

Of course I am a MA guy.

[ September 06, 2005, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]

 

[augie47]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

here, if its not installed by POCO its under inspector's jurisdiction. I would share infinity's concern and would only accept it if it was bushed and bonded...

 

[infinity]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Why not, SE is after all service entrance cable.

We do it the same way here in NJ. Exposed above/below the meter, which is NEC compliant as long as it's not subject to physical damage.

 

[iwire]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Originally posted by infinity:
We do it the same way here in NJ. Exposed above/below the meter, which is NEC compliant as long as it's not subject to physical damage.

Yeah, many times if the service is 'on' the driveway SE is out due to the possibility of physical damage.

Of course if the fear is a car or snowplow hitting it schedule 80 PVC is not going to do much better.

My own house has SE from service point to panel in the basement, it hides better than raceway if run nicely.

 

[benaround]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Towzzer,

The 2 1/2" ,does it have a weatherhead on it? If it does then 230.51 (A) would be a rule to check out.

Also 230.54(D)

 

[electricmanscott]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Originally posted by iwire:




My own house has SE from service point to panel in the basement

What! This is an outrage!

 

[electricmanscott]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

To the original question I'd say as long as the conduit is bonded it's ok. Why not just continue the conduit into the meter?

 

[benaround]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

It's probally "bonded" to the neutral right now!

 

[cselectric]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Originally posted by electricmanscott:

Originally posted by iwire:




My own house has SE from service point to panel in the basement

What! This is an outrage!

Sure is. I would have run 3" RMC. Of course I happen to have some extra 3" laying around, so that makes material cost cheap. Which is the same reason why I have 400W Metal Halide wall packs on the back of my house

 

[iwire]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Originally posted by cselectric:
Which is the same reason why I have 400W Metal Halide wall packs on the back of my house

Yeah funny how that works.

You running them 277?

 

[cselectric]

Re: Curious about sleeved SEU

Originally posted by iwire:

Originally posted by cselectric:
Which is the same reason why I have 400W Metal Halide wall packs on the back of my house

Yeah funny how that works.

You running them 277?

I only wish I had 277 available at the house, but the POCO will have none of that nonsense. :roll: