Current Limiters

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augie47

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I know it is not the purpose behind current-limiters such as Bussmann UCL50 to reduce available short-circuit current but do they provide any reduction ?
I have a contractor that is 3,000 amps high on his SCA vs his gear AIC and his contention is that the cable current limiters reduce SCA by 20% but I find nothing to document that.
 

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I know it is not the purpose behind current-limiters such as Bussmann UCL50 to reduce available short-circuit current but do they provide any reduction ?
I have a contractor that is 3,000 amps high on his SCA vs his gear AIC and his contention is that the cable current limiters reduce SCA by 20% but I find nothing to document that.
From a Bussman application data sheet:
Their current-limiting feature can be used to minimize arc-flash hazards by reducing
the magnitude of the arc-flash current and the time of the arc-flash exposure.
Unfortunately, unlike for current limiting (J-type, etc.) fuses, I have not been able to find any time/current plots for the current limiters.
It looks hopeful, but I would try to get an Application Engineer from Bussman to weigh in.
Technically, to reduce the required AIC rating of his gear you would need documentation that the current limiter opens during the first fractional cycle before the current has reached a point above the AIC rating of the equipment (or the withstanding current of his equipment if that is really the issue.)
To nail it down and protect from differences of opinion from AHJ or attorneys later, I think you would have to be able to show test results for a particular combination of devices, just as for series rating of breakers.

Long wires or air core reactors to reduce the available current, on the other hand, are subject to simple engineering calculations and would not require testing.
 

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dkidd

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ABB were the first to release "Current Limiters" a few years ago and they touted them for use in this way, but I have never seen anything saying this has been accepted in the US per the NEC.

I used Buss cable limiters in the early 80s.
 

iwire

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I used Buss cable limiters in the early 80s.

Yeah I don't know what brand I saw but in 1982 or so I was seeing them in installations from the early 70s. The power company was using them on conductors served by a network of transformers. AKA extremely high fault current.
 
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One of my customers had a box that all the service wires went to. No one there knew why so we opened it up and found a set of current limiters.

3 - 100kva pots setting on concrete blocks inside a fenced area about 15' from the building. One set up I was glad to see disappear.


And, yes we waited for the POCO to do maintenance on the primary bushings before we opened things up.
 

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The transformer manufacturer that I was a sales and applications engineer for designed and engineered cureent limiting air core reactor to those am as all enough to be supplied with an OEM's MCC to MV reactors where the ones that we supplied were (3) individual enclosures, (1) per phase that were is 8'x8'x8' enclosures.
We designed them to limit the let through current based upon a customers specification.
 
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