DC Powered Winch setup

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I have a customer who would like to install DC powered winches(6 total) inside the building where he would use them to hoist punch/kicking bags. He wants to use DC powered winches because they come with a wireless remote control. He can't find any AC powered winches that come with a wireless remote at least for a reasonable amount of money. He wants to use an Inverter to obtain the DC power needed to run the winches. So essentially there would be a 120V outlet with an AC to DC inverter plugged into it and then on the output of the inverter it would power the winches. I am not crazy about this idea and not so sure it would be code compliant but I told him I would find out. What are your thoughts on this?
 
I have a customer who would like to install DC powered winches(6 total) inside the building where he would use them to hoist punch/kicking bags. He wants to use DC powered winches because they come with a wireless remote control. He can't find any AC powered winches that come with a wireless remote at least for a reasonable amount of money. He wants to use an Inverter to obtain the DC power needed to run the winches. So essentially there would be a 120V outlet with an AC to DC inverter plugged into it and then on the output of the inverter it would power the winches. I am not crazy about this idea and not so sure it would be code compliant but I told him I would find out. What are your thoughts on this?

What sort of DC amps and volts will the winches take? The most common are 12 volt units designed for use on vehicles and expect to be able to draw outrageous amperage from a battery.
No problem with code compliance that I can see as long as the winch, AC to DC converter and DC wiring are listed and done to code. (...there's the rub?)
One DC supply for multiple winches? Might not allow you to power more than one at a time.
Needs undervoltage protection for the motor.
PS: I do not see the term inverter used to describe AC to DC much. You see DC power supplies or battery chargers mostly. And the occasional arc welder.
 
Inverters change DC to AC converters change AC to DC, but its all in the terminology we use.

I have a portable 12 volt winch in my garage that just hooks over a hitch, I used it on my 4x4 when I had it to pull people out as I didn't like taking the chance of doing damage snatching, for most hings it was about useless even though it was rated for 3k Lb's of pull, the problem with these types of winches is they usually don't have a reverse to unwind the cable at a safe speed, you have a lever on them to disengage the gear box that they free wheel the cable out, this wouldn't be good as it would let the sand bag drop.

From a safety point I would find a small hoist that is more made for the job, most of the kick boxing studios I have been in had a hand or electric winch or bolted to the wall just above the reach of small kids and the cable went up through two pulleys one above it and one above the place they wanted to hang the bag, some of them were powered but had a small AC motor on them and they would power up and down.

The problem with trying to find a 13.6 volt power supply large enough to handle a DC winch is that they will be expensive, the one I have can pull up to 80 amps at 12 volts, you going to pay upward of $300.00 for a power supply that large

So by the time your customer adds up the cost of the power supply, and your cost of doing all the wiring, and the cost of the DC winch (that might not work because of no reverse) he might as well find a AC winch that can be mounted on the wall that is more design for the job and has safety's built in so no one gets hurt, also the cable can be ran through RMC up to a hight that no one can grasp the cable as it is raised or lowered as another safety point or just mount the winch up high with the controls down low, most of the ones I have seen had key switch's to operate them so kids couldn't play with it, I think Graingers has some that might work? I'll take a look.

Another problem with using a winch designed for pulling cars out of mud is they dont have a brake to hold a load, so this could be a problem if the winch lets the load spool down after you raise it.
 
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The DC circuit would be considered a power and lighting circuit and not "low voltage". It would require OCP and a chapter 3 wiring method.
 
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