Delta to Wye transformer

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dm9289

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In my work area we have incoming transformer with 480-277Y 4000 amp output.
We have many transformers before our motor control cabinets labeled Delta to Wye although our source is Wye, and measures as such.
We had a situation with equipment that we needed a 3 phase 480/277 Y to a 240/120Y.
When the transformer arrived it was marked Delta to Wye so I called the manufacture and they said just hook it up it will work and it did.
I obviously do not understand this help?
Is you using delta/ Wye as Wye/Wye common?
 
Delta and Wye are just referring to the transformer windings. It is still the same voltage that you are hooking up on the primary side. There are many instances where I have seen this type of configuration installed to help control harmonics on the system.
 
Is you using delta/ Wye as Wye/Wye common?


When you say used as Wye-Wye... Feeding a Delta primary from a Wye source does not change the winding configuration of the primary. Your transformer is still a Delta-Wye.

The Delta wound primary on your transformer input does not care if the supply feeding comes from a Delta or Wye source. All it cares about is getting 3 sets of L-L 480 VAC sine waves (that are 120 degrees apart) to magnetize the 3 primary coils. It does not care what relationship any of those phases has to ground.

You don't feed that primary with a neutral - you just want 3 hots (and a ground). Both a Delta and a Wye supply are going to give you exactly that. From the point of view of your primary coils, both a Delta and Wye supply would look identical.
 
In my work area we have incoming transformer with 480-277Y 4000 amp output.
We have many transformers before our motor control cabinets labeled Delta to Wye although our source is Wye, and measures as such.
We had a situation with equipment that we needed a 3 phase 480/277 Y to a 240/120Y.
When the transformer arrived it was marked Delta to Wye so I called the manufacture and they said just hook it up it will work and it did.
I obviously do not understand this help?
Is you using delta/ Wye as Wye/Wye common?
That is not a wye connected voltage did you mean Delta?

A Delta primary only required the 3 phase conductors so even if the transformer had a Wye primary you would still only use three conductors.
 
Delta and Wye are just referring to the transformer windings. It is still the same voltage that you are hooking up on the primary side. There are many instances where I have seen this type of configuration installed to help control harmonics on the system.
Thank you would make sense since many are before VFDs
 
When you say used as Wye-Wye... Feeding a Delta primary from a Wye source does not change the winding configuration of the primary. Your transformer is still a Delta-Wye.

The Delta wound primary on your transformer input does not care if the supply feeding comes from a Delta or Wye source. All it cares about is getting 3 sets of L-L 480 VAC sine waves (that are 120 degrees apart) to magnetize the 3 primary coils. It does not care what relationship any of those phases has to ground.

You don't feed that primary with a neutral - you just want 3 hots (and a ground). Both a Delta and a Wye supply are going to give you exactly that. From the point of view of your primary coils, both a Delta and Wye supply would look identical.
Thank you I think I get it better now. And I have never seen one with any form of use for an input neutral.
I was looking at it as directions. Meaning Delta primary meant connect Delta supply.
Just my misunderstanding of the terminology.
 
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