I am looking at putting some receptacles near a dialysys machine. I know that the machine is plumbed for water. Do any readers have experience with these machines to know whether or not it would be a "wet" location, and require GFI receptacles? I would suspect the machines vary from model to model, so I am just hoping for some anecdotal information.
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Once again - undeducated questions and responses. The correct answer is to look up Article 517 of the National Electrical Code, the proper NFPA 99, 101 Articles and understand what "Patient Care Receptacles" really means. Dialysis represents a "incapacitated" condition!
Uneducated
Once again - undeducated questions and responses. The correct answer is to look up Article 517 of the National Electrical Code, the proper NFPA 99, 101 Articles and understand what "Patient Care Receptacles" really means. Dialysis represents a "incapacitated" condition!
GFCI Protection
GFCI Protection
Correct me if i am wrong but if you read most manufacturers recommendations you will see they require there machienes to be powered by a receptacle that is GFI protected. I worked on a dialysis clinic a few months ago and the manufacturer of the dialysis equipment in their literature indicated GFI outlets, if you decide not do follow the manufacturers recommendations you could void warranties or even be held liable from my understanding. So i think your best bet is to contact who ever is the supplier of the equipment and look at their literature, or if all else fails (I know this sounds like a cop-out) indicate within a note for the electircal contractor to verify all requirements with the vendor prior to installation. From my experience I would install GFI receptacles, it is easier to substitute a normal receptacle later if it (GFI) is not required than to release a bulletin to change them out later to GFI at an additional cost. I would hate to be receiving a treatment if something went wrong without GFI...
GFCI Protection
Correct me if i am wrong but if you read most manufacturers recommendations you will see they require there machienes to be powered by a receptacle that is GFI protected. I worked on a dialysis clinic a few months ago and the manufacturer of the dialysis equipment in their literature indicated GFI outlets, if you decide not do follow the manufacturers recommendations you could void warranties or even be held liable from my understanding. So i think your best bet is to contact who ever is the supplier of the equipment and look at their literature, or if all else fails (I know this sounds like a cop-out) indicate within a note for the electircal contractor to verify all requirements with the vendor prior to installation. From my experience I would install GFI receptacles, it is easier to substitute a normal receptacle later if it (GFI) is not required than to release a bulletin to change them out later to GFI at an additional cost. I would hate to be receiving a treatment if something went wrong without GFI...
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Educated said:
Educated. you can be more respectful or find a new place to 'deducate'
Educated said:
I'm not sure I agree that dialysis makes a patient "incapacitated", but even if it does, how does that relate to GFCI??? Are you saying there is some requirement for GFCI for any patient that is incapacitated?
But that aside, I absolutely agree with Mike, you should always follow the installation instructions for the equipment.
I think this might be a moot point in the end. After some more research, it appears that 90% of the dialysis machines on the market require a GFI receptacle per their manufacturer. So, not knowing the exact model they will be using yet, the hospital will be getting a GFI. Thanks for the constructive information.
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