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debra

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My first round of taking the Electrical renewal test. I have been a electricain for more then 5 years and I cant' pass this test! Colorado test did not give me which ones I got right or wrong. Is anyone familiar with this test and have a ny suggestions? I am going over all my answers now.
 

HotConductor

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What was your study material prior to the test and how much time did you spend studying prior to the test? Also did you have a test taking strategy prior to taking it?
 

debra

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Yes the NEC Handbook and a study guide from a class I took. I have lots of good excuses for not having alot of study time but that doesn't help me pass. What study guide do you recomend?
 

steelersman

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Yes the NEC Handbook and a study guide from a class I took. I have lots of good excuses for not having alot of study time but that doesn't help me pass. What study guide do you recomend?
I don't know what kind of test this is as I've never heard of it. In VA we just have J-man and Masters test that I know of and for those you use the NEC while you take the test. So for me personally, I never studied. I don't know how it is possible to study for a J-man or Masters test, when the book is right there with you.
 

Karl H

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I don't know what kind of test this is as I've never heard of it. In VA we just have J-man and Masters test that I know of and for those you use the NEC while you take the test. So for me personally, I never studied. I don't know how it is possible to study for a J-man or Masters test, when the book is right there with you.

You didn't study for a Masters Test? You must be the smartest man on
the planet.
 

Karl H

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Debra, Did you recieve a print out of the sections and a percent rating?
Like Art 250/50% etc.? When asked a question did you know how to look for
the "Key" words?
 

brian john

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Of all the masters test I have taken the VA state test was the easiest, West VA was one of the harder ones.

For Debra.
Take a masters course this will give lots more info and help.
Get the MH and Tom Henry's study guides.
STUDY
 

HotConductor

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Yes the NEC Handbook and a study guide from a class I took. I have lots of good excuses for not having alot of study time but that doesn't help me pass. What study guide do you recomend?
You need at least three good months of book studying prior to taking these exams. I recommend Mike Holt's NEC Exam Prep book and Google Tom Henry's study books for Journeyman and Master. Personally I was so focused on passing my master's test I studied almost every night three months prior. The two weeks prior all I did was take 100 question tests from the books and timed myself. Here was my strategy for the ICC test:

1. Take a piece of paper and number 1-100.
2. Look over the blueprints prior to starting the timed test.
3. Start the test and quickly go through all 100 questions answering questions I didn't need to look up that I knew for sure.
4. On my paper I number the ones I didn't know 1,2,3 or a,b,c. 1 is a question that I knew where to find in the book quickly. 2 was a question that I knew but would need some extra time to find or calculate out. 3 were questions I would go back and answer last. Then I went back and answered 1's first, 2's next and 3's last.

You also need to study the Table of Contents and Index. Good Luck!
 

HotConductor

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I don't know what kind of test this is as I've never heard of it. In VA we just have J-man and Masters test that I know of and for those you use the NEC while you take the test. So for me personally, I never studied. I don't know how it is possible to study for a J-man or Masters test, when the book is right there with you.
Does seem a bit egotistical...certainly not the advice she is looking for.
 

steelersman

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Does seem a bit egotistical...certainly not the advice she is looking for.
I don't know what else to say. I don't know how you can study for a J-man or masters test. I can see the need to study if you can't use the NEC during the test then you bet I'd have to study and study and study and study some more. And I'd need to be able to memorize like crazy. And since my memory is so horrible.......
 

Karl H

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Honestly Karl I don't see how you could study. I'm by far not the smartest on the planet and not implying that I am. So take a quelude dude. :)

First I don't do drugs. Second, is the Masters in your state open book?
The only open book tests that I've ever taken was a journeymans test.
Masters was always closed book except the calcs. :smile:
 

steelersman

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First I don't do drugs. Second, is the Masters in your state open book?
The only open book tests that I've ever taken was a journeymans test.
Masters was always closed book except the calcs. :smile:
So they expect you to memorize the NEC? Of course it's all open book NEC. How else would I have passed? Maybe you should give 'em a try. :)
 

Karl H

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So they expect you to memorize the NEC? Of course it's all open book NEC. How else would I have passed? Maybe you should give 'em a try. :)

That's the point of a Masters Test...Closed Book. What is the difference
between a journeymans and Masters in your state? I'm just curious.
No offense it's Saturday night and I'm in a good mood I have the house to
myself and no work tommorrow. :D
 

steelersman

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That's the point of a Masters Test...Closed Book. What is the difference
between a journeymans and Masters in your state? I'm just curious.
No offense it's Saturday night and I'm in a good mood I have the house to
myself and no work tommorrow. :D
Honestly, I don't remember the difference between the 2 other than there being I think maybe 20 more questions on the masters. I also have no work tomorrow for a change. My wife is happy about that. Although I do have to get my state vehicle inspection tomorrow morning. I'm dreading that. I'll most likely have to wait in a decently long line. I'm going to try to be the first one inline before they open at 9. :)
 

Davis9

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I don't know what else to say. I don't know how you can study for a J-man or masters test. I can see the need to study if you can't use the NEC during the test then you bet I'd have to study and study and study and study some more. And I'd need to be able to memorize like crazy. And since my memory is so horrible.......


Here part of the Masters is NEC(with state amendments), but then the rest is Mass general laws as pertaining to Electricians, labor law, NFPA 72, NFPA 70E, and a few more I'm forgetting. It is open book(s), but you'd have a tough time finding the answers in the time allotted if you weren't very familiar with the extra materials.

Tom

To the OP,

I would just get a practice test book and do the sections one at a time until you are comfortable with the questions. Then get another book and do the same.

Does the Testing agency have a recommended Book to buy?
 

hardworkingstiff

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Wilmington, NC
First I don't do drugs. Second, is the Masters in your state open book?
The only open book tests that I've ever taken was a journeymans test.
Masters was always closed book except the calcs. :smile:

I've taken the Norfolk VA local (1978), VA State (1981), WVA (circa 1993), SC (1995), and NC (1996) "masters or contractors" exams and all of them are open book.

What's the point of a closed book exam? You have the book in the field. The test should be to see if you know how to use the book and find the answers. The trickiest test was the NC test (maybe the WVA test).
 

augie47

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I've taken the Norfolk VA local (1978), VA State (1981), WVA (circa 1993), SC (1995), and NC (1996) "masters or contractors" exams and all of them are open book.

What's the point of a closed book exam? You have the book in the field. The test should be to see if you know how to use the book and find the answers. The trickiest test was the NC test (maybe the WVA test).

a half dozen or so contractors here have multi-state (mostly Southern) and they all said the same. "You better know the book for NC":. Most failed it the 1st time.
 
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