Did we just lose something (NJ)?

[celtic]

This effects NJ only ~ but everyone is free to offer their opinions, insights, thoughts, comments and other assorted mental babble :smile:

Specimen "A": Ordinary Maintenance and Minor Work dated 6/18/07

Points to ponder and comment on(starting at pg. 5):

N.J.A.C. 5:23-2.17A Minor work

(a) The issuance of a permit shall not be required before minor work may proceed. The owner, or an architect or contractor acting on behalf of the owner, shall, however, provide notice of the work to the enforcing agency before work begins.

(b) Notice of work; application:
1. Notice of minor work shall be a personal or telephoned oral notice before work commences. This oral notice shall be provided to the enforcing agency between 9:00 A.M. and 5:00 P.M., Monday through Friday, except holidays. In those cases where the local enforcing agency is not open and available to receive notice at those times then notice shall be provided to the municipal clerk;
2. In addition to oral notice, the owner or his agent shall be required to file an application. The completed application with the fee shall be delivered in person or by mail to the enforcing agency, within five business days from the date of the oral notice.

3. Minor work shall also mean and include new electrical work incidental to the installation of air conditioning, equipment, clothes dryers, and ranges or ovens in one and two family dwellings; the installation of five or less 110 or 220 volt receptacles or fixtures where existing circuits and/or available space circuits and service are adequate to support the load; the replacement of existing wiring with new wiring of the same capacity provided that the new wiring shall be of a type approved for the use by the code;

I know this tidbit is about a year old ~ but "new" to my eyes.

My comments are in regard to item #3.
In previous years, I recall a HO being able to obtain a permit for work on their own (owner occupied ~ OO) single family dwelling (SFH).
As this thing is written, the property no longer requires it to be OO and has been expanded to include two family dwellings (TFH) AND also allows for "minor work" including rewiring entire homes (SFH & TFH) by the HO w/o a permit!

It goes on to state:

1. Inspections shall be required for minor work and the enforcing agency shall inspect any such work within 30 days of the request for inspection;

2. The construction official shall issue a certificate of approval stating that the work performed under a Minor Work Permit substantially complies with the UCC. The inspection shall be based upon what is visible at the time of said inspection and the certificate of approval shall so indicate.

"substantially complies" is that the same standard your average EC is held to?

NOTE:
All "Bold" by me as an attention getter...no bold in actual document.

 

[peter d]

the installation of five or less 110 or 220 volt receptacles or fixtures where existing circuits and/or available space circuits and service are adequate to support the load;

Nice loophole there...does that mean you can work on as many 120 and 240 volt receptacles that you want without a permit?

 

[celtic]

Nice loophole there...does that mean you can work on as many 120 and 240 volt receptacles that you want without a permit?

Their intent may have been 5....but Pandora's Box has been opened and left unattended, IMSO.

 

[JES2727]

I believe a permit is still required :

"2. In addition to oral notice, the owner or his agent shall be required to file an application. The completed application with the fee shall be delivered in person or by mail to the enforcing agency, within five business days from the date of the oral notice."

This just allows us to begin the work without waiting for the building department to issue the permit.

 

[Jerseydaze]

Home owner needs one outlet in Jersey do you get a permit be honest.

 

[satcom]

Home owner needs one outlet in Jersey do you get a permit be honest.

Is that the outlet that burned. the building down? Does it make sense to require a permit on only outlets over a given number, i sure would like to see the insurance underwriter, that thinks that way, Keep telling yourself it's ok, or you see other EC do it, that will only lead to big problems someday.