Difference between capacitive and inductive coupling

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teufelhounden91

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I am not an engineer, I am a journeyman electrician. I've been trying to wrap my head around the difference between inductive coupling and capacitive coupling. Both of them appear to do the same thing. Can anyone explain the differences in how they work?


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big john

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Inductive coupling happens when current flow creates a changing magnetic field and that field influences another conductor. Your clamp on ammeter is a good example of this, it is displaying a value based on the strength of the field around the jaws: I've seen an old analog clamp meter read a high error because of the field from a nearby AC electromagnet.

It's difficult to stop a magnetic field, so inductive coupling will pass through metal. This is why you can take a current measurement on shielded cable.

Capacitive coupling happens when voltage establishes an electric field that influences another conductor. Your tic-tester is an example of this, where AC produces a constantly changing voltage in the tester circuit. That this is voltage-dependent explains why your tester will work on wires even with no current flowing in them.

However, an electric field will be stopped by a conductive material, and this is why capacitive testers won't work through EMT or cable shielding.

As far as how those influences differ, someone else may have to expand on that. They will both couple a voltage,and in a closed circuit they will both cause current flow. I know they have will be 90° out of phase, but am otherwise not sure how they differ.
 

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I am not an engineer, I am a journeyman electrician. I've been trying to wrap my head around the difference between inductive coupling and capacitive coupling. Both of them appear to do the same thing. Can anyone explain the differences in how they work?


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I will give it a try.

Capacitance is the phenomenon whereby an electric field causes charges in conductors to move toward the gap between the conductors. A simple capacitor is two plates separated by an insulating gap. When you apply a voltage to the capacitor terminals electrons move from one plate to the other, leaving one positively charged and one negatively charged. The current into a capacitor is proportional to the rate of change of the voltage and so leads the voltage in phase when you apply AC.
Capacitive coupling occurs because any two conductors form a capacitor, just not a very good one.
You can shield against capacitive coupling by putting a grounded shield around one or both wires.

Inductance is the phenomenon whereby a current in a coil causes a magnetic field which opposes the flow of current in the short term. The voltage across an inductor is proportional to the rate of change of the applied voltage but is lagging rather than leading.
Inductive coupling is actually what is properly called mutual inductance. It happens when two coils share a common location for the magnetic field (as in a transformer). The changes in current in one wire then induce a voltage from end to end in the other wire.
The magnetic field passes almost unobstructed through shielding that would effectively block capacitive coupling.
The capacitance between two wires lying next to each other in the same raceway can cause phantom voltages on the second wire if it is not connected to a source or a load.
The inductance between two wires in the same raceway is also significant to analog signals but does little to affect power wiring in a house.
If the second conductor is disconnected at both ends inductive coupling will result in a voltage difference between the two ends of that wire, but no voltage to ground at any point along the wire that would show op on a typical meter. But even with one end connected to a current source and the other end to a load, there will be a (very small) voltage difference from inductive coupling in addition to the resistive voltage drop.

Finally, to give a real world situation, if you have a third wire in a conduit which contains the hot and neutral for a circuit or the two sides of a switch leg for a circuit you can have capacitive coupling from those two wires to the third wire, but very little inductive coupling.
On the other hand if you have only a neutral and a second wire in a conduit you can get inductive coupling but little or no capacitive coupling since the current in the neutral is non-zero but the voltage is effectively zero.
 

big john

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But not either a concentric neutral cable or a coaxial signal cable where the return current path will unavoidably also be caught inside the ammeter jaws.
Right. Same goes for any cable assembly like Romex. This can be a good fault-finding check, though: If yoy clamp all circuit conductors and get a significant non-zero reading, you know there's current differential.
 

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GoldDigger:

Can you re-phrase you post #4. From my reading of the post I am not sure you said what you meant to say.

If I have a coax cable and the return current is all via the shield, then a clamp-on current meter around the outside of the coax will read 0 because the magnetic fields of the opposing currents will cancel each other.

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GoldDigger:

Can you re-phrase you post #4. From my reading of the post I am not sure you said what you meant to say.

If I have a coax cable and the return current is all via the shield, then a clamp-on current meter around the outside of the coax will read 0 because the magnetic fields of the opposing currents will cancel each other.

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GAR
I agree with your statement but I do not think GD's post #4 contradicts what you said.
 

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Restatement:

As long as the return current path is not inside the cable or the shield with the hot conductor and the shield is not the return conductor either you can measure the current in a shielded cable with an amp-clamp.

On the other hand a multiconductor but unshielded cable like SOWor NM will not work with an amp clamp unless you break out the hot and return conductors separately.
 

teufelhounden91

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Holy crap. I finally get it. All of it! Thank you all, this makes my misunderstanding of induced voltages and currents crystal clear. For the love of God thank you!!!


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