Dining Area Question

[GlennH]

I have a house with basically 2 rooms on the first floor, A kitchen and great room. The plans are showing a dining table in one corner of the great room.

210-52 B-1, mentions dining rooms and similar areas to be included on the 20 amp SABC's. Would you think that the recepts in this area would be included in that and if so where would the "line" be that would get me out of the dining area?

Also the HO would like all the recepts in the great room to be 1/2 switched and 1/2 hot. The exception in this code section seems to allow switched recepts in addition to the SABC. Would it be ok to just put one 20 amp recept in this area and have the rest of the switched recepts off of the great room circuit? TIA

 

[dana1028]

A thought......run a separate dedicated 20A ckt for the entire 'great room' receptacles and call the 'great room' the dining room. That way you have a SABC [20A] feeding the entire 'dining room' and you don't have to worry about where the 'line' is.

No body says you are not allowed to use the 'dining' room any way you want. - JMO

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Whenever I had a situation like that I drew an imaginary line where the dining room ended and the kiving room began. It is quite subjective but you can usually define the space if it isn't already defined on the plans.

 

[GerryB]

It is confusing, but inspectors have told me that at least one receptacle in the dining room needs to be on a 20 amp circuit. I don't know if it specifically has to be off a kitchen circuit but usually that is most convenient.

 

[kwired]

It is confusing, but inspectors have told me that at least one receptacle in the dining room needs to be on a 20 amp circuit. I don't know if it specifically has to be off a kitchen circuit but usually that is most convenient.

Then somebody needs to clarify what is dining room and what is living room. If it is dining room, all receptacles in said dining room must be on the two or more required small appliance branch circuits and can not serve any other outlets except for those required to be on SABC's. I really don't see anything confusing, we just need to define what is dining room and what is not, if the whole thing is deemed to be dining room then fine, all receptacles are to be on a SABC.