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What is the best way for a dishwasher machine to be locked out? Cord and plug or is there another way to go. I believe it has to be powered off before its taken out of under counter spot. Thanks again for any help.
 
I don't fully understand your question but I seldom cord and plug the DW, however I do leave enough wire to slide it out from under cabinet.
 
mickeyrench said:
What is the best way for a dishwasher machine to be locked out? Cord and plug or is there another way to go. I believe it has to be powered off before its taken out of under counter spot. Thanks again for any help.
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There is no best way. Personally I use a sp switch under the sink cabinet next to the dw. Some DW's come with cord and plug in which case I just install a receptacle under the sink cabinet.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
There is no best way. Personally I use a sp switch under the sink cabinet next to the dw. Some DW's come with cord and plug in which case I just install a receptacle under the sink cabinet.
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Personally speaking, I use the cord and plug method. The way I see it is if a problem develops with a DW, the person coming out to work on the unit is going to be a plumber or an appliance repair tech and not an experienced electrician. Unplugging the unit from a receptacle inside the sink cabinet is the most convenient and positive way of disconnecting it. However, some inspectors will argue that the proper way of providing a disconnect means is to install a lock-out device on the circuit breaker. Haven't seen too many breaker locks in the houses that I've serviced.

If you stop and think about what a service scenario might be : A tech comes in to work on the unit, goes downstairs and shuts the breaker, repairs the unit, goes back downstairs and turns on the breaker, oops ! we have a leak, goes back downstairs and shuts the breaker, comes up and makes the repair, goes back downstairs and turns on the breaker, etc, etc, etc.

I think the cord and plug way is by far the best method (I think I said that already):smile:
 
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some inspectors will argue that the proper way of providing a disconnect means is to install a lock-out device on the circuit breaker. Haven't seen too many breaker locks in the houses that I've serviced.
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They need to buy a code book. :rolleyes:
 
As long as the disconnect meets the code it's a matter of opinion. I can see the cord as being the best for the repairman but I'm not crazy about cords . I like the switch idea.
 
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If you stop and think about what a service scenario might be : A tech comes in to work on the unit, goes downstairs and shuts the breaker, repairs the unit, goes back downstairs and turns on the breaker, oops ! we have a leak, goes back downstairs and shuts the breaker, comes up and makes the repair, goes back downstairs and turns on the breaker, etc, etc, etc.
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Gee, just like us poor electricians. :roll:
 
I agree cord-and-plug. K I S S

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There is no best way. Personally I use a sp switch under the sink cabinet next to the dw. Some DW's come with cord and plug in which case I just install a receptacle under the sink cabinet.
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Personally speaking, I use the cord and plug method. The way I see it is if a problem develops with a DW, the person coming out to work on the unit is going to be a plumber or an appliance repair tech and not an experienced electrician.
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I don't see the problem with a sp switch. I leave enough cable under the dishwasher to make sure the dw can be pulled all the way out without disconnecting.

Now, if you want to get technical then there is more of an issue with cord and plug unless the cord and plug is suitable for use with dw. This info can be found in the instructions on many units. Now how many of you actually installs a special cord and plug for the dw.

I just don't think it's that big a deal either way.
 
Cord and plug in minnesota here too. Sometimes a new apprentice or a sloppy journeyman will stick the outlet directly behind the dishwasher and then we've been told by the inspector that it must have abreaker lock on it.
 
MF Dagger said:
Cord and plug in minnesota here too. Sometimes a new apprentice or a sloppy journeyman will stick the outlet directly behind the dishwasher and then we've been told by the inspector that it must have a breaker lock on it.
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If the dishwasher draws more than 1/8 HP, that will still not meet code.
 
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