DIYer's to work on enrgized electric.

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sandsnow

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Well not exactly.
I did see one of these for sale in the tool dept. at HD. It is indeed the 1000V model. Didn't get a price.
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Really caught my eye since it has no business being there, unless they are trying to steal tool business away from the wholesale houses.
This would lull DIYer's into a false sense of safety.
 
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Re: DIYer's to work on enrgized electric.

I'm having a "monday morning moment," Larry. What is that thing?
 
iwire

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Re: DIYer's to work on enrgized electric.

That is an electricians pencil. :D

It is a Klein insulated screwdriver, looks like a #2 Phillips.

It is required when working on energized circuits.
 
sandsnow

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It is an screwdriver insulated for energized low voltage electrical work.
600V or less.

edit: What Bob said ;)

[ January 16, 2006, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: sandsnow ]
 
peter d

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Originally posted by sandsnow:
Really caught my eye since it has no business being there, unless they are trying to steal tool business away from the wholesale houses.
This would lull DIYer's into a false sense of safety.
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I agree and disagree. You can't protect idiots from themselves, and if a DIYer thinks they have are being safer by using an insulated scredriver, then so be it. We can't worry about what DIYers do.

And we do live in America where we shouldn't have an expectation about stores placing restrictions on our ability to buy things. If I want to buy replacement parts for my truck, then I should be able to even though I'm not a mechanic.

I happen to buy some Klein tools from Home Depot and the supply house, and I like the fact that I can get them at HD if I need something in a pinch. After all, the professional is more likely to buy the Klein stuff while the DIyer is more likely to buy the cheap stuff. I rarely see DIyers with a full Klein setup.
 
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Often big orange is cheaper on klines than supply houses.My guess is that they know electricians shop at there store.I too rather dought the average diy will pay for quality
 
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jbwhite

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I buy most of my hand tools at the big box store. the sell the name brand "kline" at a better price than the supply house.

No store loyalty here. I go for price. :cool:
 
petersonra

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Originally posted by jimwalker:
Supply house wanted $14 for a 10 in 1,big orange was $10.Why is it they got to gouge.
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The supply house takes advantage of the fact that you are already there and used to ordering from them. No different than any other retailer except what kind of merchandise they sell.
 
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jbwhite

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do what I do.

call the supply house and say "this tool is for me personal, and the (big box store) sells for X. then ask what they will sell it for.

You will likely get it cheeper and delived with the next days stuff.
 
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realolman

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What would the supply house charge if HD wasn't there?

I don't see any reason DIY s shouldn't have access to good tools. Who among us is not a DIY in some area?
 
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smokum

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any one ever been working after hours or on the weekend and have on break, you will thank god that big orange is open cause the supply house is not.
 
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bthielen

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The supply store may not necessarily be gouging. Try this. Get a retailer's license and open your own supply store in a small town. Now, contact a wholesaler and tell them you want to purchase 8 of these tools and see what they will charge you for them including shipping. Now, consider a large chain store that buys their tools in gross quantities. Who do you think the wholesaler is going to give the best price too? The wholesaler can setup and mass-produce the tools rather than just producing a small quantity so it will cost less per tool to manufacture not to mention that shipping too will be less per item in a larger order.

Consider an electrical contractor. If Joe Blow homeowner asks a contractor for a price to install a new receptacle in his home, how much will that cost? If this same homeowner's request included rewiring his entire home, how much cost will be figured in for each receptacle? My guess is the cost per receptacle is much less in the latter scenario.

Higher price doesn't always translate into gouging. It might be a matter of cost. If I drive to town and buy one duplex box or I buy 100, the cost to get there and back will be the same but the cost per box will be much less if I buy 100.

Bob
 
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templdl

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The DIYr vs the professional electrician and the subject of tools.
Often times we look at that screwdriver as well as the other professional tools from a professional point of view and not the common homeowner.
If I were a DIYr I would say "boy,look a that screwdriver. It has to be good because it is expensive and professionals use it. And, it certainly prettier than that set of screwdrivers that I bought at the bargain tool bin at K-mart."
"Oh, I didn't even know that you could work on live circuits with it. I just like the screwdriver and it looks great in my tool box."
Personally, I don't think that screwdiver will change the way a DIYr will approach an electrical project. If they are dumb enough to work on one live before the screwdriver may save them from and accident. But they probably would be the ones that are to macho to buy one anyway. And the rest of the DIYrs? Well, they probably are smart enough to turn off the power.
 
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