Door swing & work space

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insparks

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Where I work we are still under the NEC 2002 and I ran into a slight problem the other day where the main electric service panel was behind the garage mandoor. From the hinged side of the door I had the required work space plus when the door was opened 90 degrees there was no problem. The only problem was the door swing was in the work space. Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this alright?
 

jwjrw

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If I understand you then with the door shut you have the proper space which is fine but depending on the size and amperage your door may have to swing out.
 

jwjrw

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Then you should be fine. Alot of panels are in shallow closets that give you the required working space I dont see why the reverse wouldnt be true.
 

raider1

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Logan, Utah
I agree with jwjrw,

If you have the required working space when the man door is closed there is not problem.

It is quite common in my area to see a panel located behind the swing of a door to a laundry room.

Chris
 

geovan

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Location
Silver City
When I was inspecting. I came across this.
The Journeyman called me to come look at it. I found nothing in writing in the NEC. Although I didn't like it. (working in a panel someone swings the door open and there you are ). So I called a Building Inspector. He found the IBC touched on it.
Check with the Building Inspector also.
 

raider1

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Logan, Utah
When I was inspecting. I came across this.
The Journeyman called me to come look at it. I found nothing in writing in the NEC. Although I didn't like it. (working in a panel someone swings the door open and there you are ). So I called a Building Inspector. He found the IBC touched on it.
Check with the Building Inspector also.

Do you know what section of the IBC he was referencing?

Chris
 

tkb

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Location
MA
It can be a good thing.
That way no one can use the area for storage.
Almost guarantees that the area will be clear.
 

Ragin Cajun

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Location
Upstate S.C.
Behind a door in a room to me is the best location since you know someone can't pile junk in front of it..


BUT . . .

Today the City of Charleston, SC gigged me for that. They don't allow a panel behind any door. They gave two reasons:

1. "Safety" as the man working "hot" could get hit by the door.
2. It's "hidden" behind the door and people might "miss it".

I said "OK", since there was room to move it. Gotta pick your battles - Electrical was the only one that passed code review. (Still like them behind the door - just everywhere else.)

BTW, they absolutely prohibit aluminum cable - including large feeders. Guess it's the salt from the ocean.

RC
 

tom baker

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Bremerton, Washington
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Master Electrician
I was discussing with Habitat for Humanity how they keep the area clear in front of electrical panels. The answer was simple, put the panel behind a door that swings as you describe. The clearance is there when the door is closed. As long as the door is not a required exit it could even be locked shut when working.
 

tommyh

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Location
Colorado
As long as you have your 30" of working space & 3' in front of the panel you should be ok, unless you have a high amp service. 200 amps is no problem....
 

George Stolz

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Location
Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
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Service Manager
Today the City of Charleston, SC gigged me for that. They don't allow a panel behind any door. They gave two reasons:

1. "Safety" as the man working "hot" could get hit by the door.
2. It's "hidden" behind the door and people might "miss it".
I would have assured them I've never seen a blind, shoeless electrician in my life, and that redwings make an excellent doorstop when a lock is unavailable. :D
 
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