Dryer outlet
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kwired
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Most AHJ are going to consider total replacement like that a new branch circuit and are going to require 4 wire cable.
I myself will replace it with 4 wire cable whether an inspector is going to see it or not.
It does not pay in long run to do things incorrectly, that is why you are a professional - you are supposed to know what the right way is. If you are a handiman you do what ever costs less and still makes the dryer run and have no clue why it may not be safe.
I myself will replace it with 4 wire cable whether an inspector is going to see it or not.
It does not pay in long run to do things incorrectly, that is why you are a professional - you are supposed to know what the right way is. If you are a handiman you do what ever costs less and still makes the dryer run and have no clue why it may not be safe.
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10/2 wg was never a legal install for a dryer. As a rewire you need 10/3 wg and you would need to reconfigure the dryer cord & connections.
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Actually if the 10/2 was an seu cable, I know it was not, and it originated at a service panel then it would have been code compliant. NM 10/2 was never compliant even from a service panel.
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Maybe a dumb question, but currently I only have the 2005 Code book and I don't see SER, SEU cables listed in there. What are they? Something added to later Code books?
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Maybe a dumb question, but currently I only have the 2005 Code book and I don't see SER, SEU cables listed in there. What are they? Something added to later Code books?
SE is service entrance cable- art 338
SEU is 3 wire- 2 conductors and a wrapped ground.
SER is 4 wire- 2 conductors, neutral and wrapped round
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Thanks! Are they considered service entrance cables? Above or below ground? Or just general conductors?
Jim W in Tampa
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You should have made a bet on it for lunch of your choice. As been said 10-2 nm was never legal. What was allowed for many years was to have 2 hots and a neutral (insulated) and then bond the frame to the neutral. You did the right thing for 2 reasons even if it had been an insulated neutral when changed or replaced needed to be 4 wire.
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Bill USE is another type of se cable. That is used underground. SEU and SER are allowed outdoor or indoor but not underground.
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Thanks, I'm still trying to fill my brain with the resi. stuff!
kwired
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Those items are not limited to use in residential applications although they are more common in those applications.
I find it interesting that many feel commercial work is more complicated than residential.
I feel it is much easier to overlook a code requirement in residential work than there is in commercial work - especially with some of the code changes made in the last 10 - 15 years.
You make a new commercial installation the way you did 15 years ago but have todays inspector look at it he may not make you change much at all.
You do the same thing with a new dwelling and you will be making a lot of changes.
Jim W in Tampa
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Exactly, I did residential for 20 years then went commercial. Would turn residential down now. Commercial is far easier and you need not swing like a monkey to get it done in time.
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