Eaton’s retrofit panel assemblies are not UL listed!!

[stuartdmc]

Eaton has a great retrofit panel for conditions when you have to change out a panels interiors, like the old "Zinsco". The breakers, the busing and cover are all UL listed but, they don't UL the application assembly installation of the retrofit into an existing housing or panel enclosure! What in the world! What good is it then, right?

How do I get around the inspector if he/she bring up the issue?
Does anyone know how to resolve this issues without having to call a third party to certify the retrofits assembly?
Does anyone know of another manufacturer that offers a retrofit application that's UL rated?

Thanks to all.
Stu

 

[petersonra]

The enclosure you are putting it in is already listed.

In fact, as best i can tell, type 1 enclosures are not even required to be listed by the code.

 

[stuartdmc]

The enclosure you are putting it in is already listed.

In fact, as best i can tell, type 1 enclosures are not even required to be listed by the code.

Bob, That's really good news, I did not think of it that way.

I wonder where I can verify that, that's the case?
That may just satisfy the issue.

 

[iwire]

Panelboards are installed in cabinets and are covered in article 312. I do not see a listing requirement for dry location steel cabinets.

 

[infinity]

What we typically call an electrical panel is actually, according to the NEC, two separate parts, a cabinet and a panelboard.

 

[Paul Choiniere]

What we typically call an electrical panel is actually, according to the NEC, two separate parts, a cabinet and a panelboard.

I don't know why you would say a cabinet does not have to be listed? If it does not have to be listed who determines weather or not the studs or fasteners will hold the panelboard in place in the case of a large event such as an explosion's? Are you saying it is up to the installer to make that determination? Then up to the inspector to approve it?

 

[infinity]

What we typically call an electrical panel is actually, according to the NEC, two separate parts, a cabinet and a panelboard.

I don't know why you would say a cabinet does not have to be listed? If it does not have to be listed who determines weather or not the studs or fasteners will hold the panelboard in place in the case of a large event such as an explosion's? Are you saying it is up to the installer to make that determination? Then up to the inspector to approve it?

I'm not sure why you quoted my post it says nothing about listing.

Welcome to the Forum.

 

[electrofelon]

I don't know why you would say a cabinet does not have to be listed? If it does not have to be listed who determines weather or not the studs or fasteners will hold the panelboard in place in the case of a large event such as an explosion's? Are you saying it is up to the installer to make that determination? Then up to the inspector to approve it?

because it is a fact article 312 does not require cabinets to be listed. You are welcome to write a proposal to try to have that changed.

 

[kwired]

This thread is nearly six years old.

 

[electrofelon]

This thread is nearly six years old.

Well, don't you wish you were six years old again?

 

[mayanees]

Well, don't you wish you were six years old again?

... or at least six years younger

 

[kwired]

Well, don't you wish you were six years old again?

But threads on here are not like "dog years", they age even faster

 

[jim dungar]

Please start a new thread if you want to continue this discussion.