Effect of a fault on a voltage source

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mull982

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When a fault occurs in a system does the voltage supplied by a voltage source decrease heading towards 0V?

Is this decrease in voltage a result of the high current across the voltage source impedance causing this voltage to drop?
 
080915-2114 EST

An ideal voltage source has an absolutely constant voltage output. This is what you work with theoretically in an equivalent circuit.

A real world voltage source will generally be assumed to be an ideal voltage source with some series internal impedance, or an ideal current source with a shunt internal impedance. You can use either as your source.

The short circuit current is determined by the ideal voltage source, and its internal impedance in series with whatever is the external short circuit impedance.

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AC or DC? I have seen countless times where a fault occurs on a DC power supply drawing the voltage level down. Once the fault is determined and fixed the supply returns to nominal level. Of course this is on lower voltage scale typically 24vdc.
 
Strahan said:
AC or DC? I have seen countless times where a fault occurs on a DC power supply drawing the voltage level down. Once the fault is determined and fixed the supply returns to nominal level. Of course this is on lower voltage scale typically 24vdc.


With a limited source.
 
gar said:
080915-2114 EST

An ideal voltage source has an absolutely constant voltage output. This is what you work with theoretically in an equivalent circuit.

A real world voltage source will generally be assumed to be an ideal voltage source with some series internal impedance, or an ideal current source with a shunt internal impedance. You can use either as your source.

The short circuit current is determined by the ideal voltage source, and its internal impedance in series with whatever is the external short circuit impedance.

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Are these internal impedances you referenced caused by such things as resistance of windings etc...

The voltage source model makes sense to me, but why does the current source have its internal resistance in parallel with the source?
 
mull982 said:
When a fault occurs in a system does the voltage supplied by a voltage source decrease heading towards 0V?

Is this decrease in voltage a result of the high current across the voltage source impedance causing this voltage to drop?
Yes.......
 
080916-1146 EST

mull982:

The internal impedance is a function of a number of items. For a transformer it is both the resistance of the windings, both primary and the secondary, and the leakage flux of the transformer, primary flux that does not couple to the secondary, which is described as the leakage inductance.

Short lengths of branch wiring can be consider as primarily resistive.

If you look toward the incoming power source at your main panel, then the equivalent source impedance is made up of everything going back to the power plant generators. However, the significant portion of this starts at your pole transformer.

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