Electric Panel In Basement Under Tub Location

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I know that it is not a code violation but am curious about how many of you would fail a installation if the main electrical service was installed in the basement. The bathtub is installed right above it on the first floor. If you would fail it on what basis would you fail it?
 
Not the best location for the service, but, I do not know of any NEC violation.
Might want to check my post in regards to a water heater in attic space above a panel in a bedroom.
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From an inspector's viewpoint, the question seems a bit strange....
"...it's not a Code violation so how many of you would reject it"
Hopefully the answer is none !
 
I've installed a lot of services under things called roofs and so far no one has failed any of them for the potential of a leak.
 
IMHO the only potential violation would be if the supply or drain pipes for the tub come below the ceiling level inside the wall and the panel is recessed into the wall. That would make a dedicated space violation.
 
I know that it is not a code violation but am curious about how many of you would fail a installation if the main electrical service was installed in the basement. The bathtub is installed right above it on the first floor. If you would fail it on what basis would you fail it?

We (electricians) cannot wire a home based on "What Ifs". The AHJ Inspector should not inspect based on "What If". If the tub above the panel really bothers somebody install a drip pan under the pipes.
 
We (electricians) cannot wire a home based on "What Ifs". The AHJ Inspector should not inspect based on "What If". If the tub above the panel really bothers somebody install a drip pan under the pipes.

Not to get off topic (the roof thing was good)

I did a commercial garage where a plumber was going to park his trucks I went from the panel to several areas on the ground before the floor pour with PVC and stubbed up The inspector had me change the stub ups to rigged saying that no one gets married planning on a divorce (well at least they used to not. This was 1981)I changed them. Not a biggy. Could I have argued that as a "what if "?
 
Not to get off topic (the roof thing was good)

I did a commercial garage where a plumber was going to park his trucks I went from the panel to several areas on the ground before the floor pour with PVC and stubbed up The inspector had me change the stub ups to rigged saying that no one gets married planning on a divorce (well at least they used to not. This was 1981)I changed them. Not a biggy. Could I have argued that as a "what if "?

PVC would be OK if stubbed up in a stud wall or similar area not subject to damage. For conduits exiting the slab in the middle of a floor, Rigid would be the right call. In a large warehouse w/tilt up wall panels. 1,000's of feet of PVC conduit were run below grade. Where ever these conduits came above finished floor Rigid conduit up to 8' AFF was required.
 
What if I move the panel to a location under the adjacent walk-in closet, and 6 months from now the owners remodel said closet and bath and relocate the tub over the panel?

What if the power fails during a major natural disaster, the sump quits and the entire basement gets 6' of water in it?

What if the water heater, that's 8' away from the panel, gets a pinhole leak that just happens to spray water all over the panel?


One can play this game of What If until you're totally out of options.
 
PVC would be OK if stubbed up in a stud wall or similar area not subject to damage. For conduits exiting the slab in the middle of a floor, Rigid would be the right call. In a large warehouse w/tilt up wall panels. 1,000's of feet of PVC conduit were run below grade. Where ever these conduits came above finished floor Rigid conduit up to 8' AFF was required.

My guess is the "what if" was about if the space becomes a future "commercial garage" in which case we would have a classified are up to 18" above the floor. Today we have more then one kind of commercial garage and some may not have this classified area, but a the time mentioned there was only one type of commercial garage and it had the classified area.

IMO that "what if" is a problem for the owner when it becomes a commercial garage. This space could have become many other things as well that may have presented other "what if's".

There is a nursing home I used to do work for that is now a shop for local farm equipment and service company, haven't been inside but has overhead doors that would have had resident rooms on inside and one leads right into what was the dining room, talk about a change of use:blink:
 
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