Electrical fields around transmission towers

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quogueelectric

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There is a 300 foot actually 2 transmission towers located halfway down a county road by me.
I have worked on this tower and there is a lot of equipment in the tower and on the tower.
My question is that over the last 10 yrs passing this tower I notice a difference in my trucks engine performance such as timing advancement and possibly transmision shift points being different as I pass the tower.
I also have noticed a large number of fatal car accidents in this particular spot in both directions. After reading a post somewhere about the extensive grounding underground at the towers base it seems as if the ground grid or whatever you call it is one half of a large capacitor plate where the transmision is occuring.
Now thinking about all of this as I drive past every day I am thinking about this huge ground grid and I am passing all of the crosses and flowers I realize that directly across the highway they had installed a huge water tower.
No better grounded structure on the planet I would think. A huge steel structure with tons of weight and very long steel pipes in contact with the earth for miles in all directions.
Does anyone think that stray electrical current crossing the ground across a highway could affect the road conditions such as icing????
 
quogueelectric said:
....Does anyone think that stray electrical current crossing the ground across a highway could affect the road conditions such as icing????
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I seriously doubt stray voltage could cause water on a roadway to freeze. It may thaw ice, and the end result would be water, but I don't think the physics would lower the temperature of liquid water to 0?C.
 
wow are we searching for a philosophical discussion in this area because the poco wil tell you itis not significant..yet I have read some where that with the saturation of the earth with electrical eneregy...I must find what it was I was reading so i do not insert foot in mouth...

I know why worry about that now...
 
For some reason the road seems to ice up here FIRST maybe the current is killing vegitation /Microbes/organisms or possibly changing the chemistry in the road salt. I first was looking for confirmation that a ground current was likely or not given the constant rf field around this transmitter tower.
 
quogueelectric said:
For some reason the road seems to ice up here FIRST maybe the current is killing vegitation /Microbes/organisms or possibly changing the chemistry in the road salt. I first was looking for confirmation that a ground current was likely or not given the constant rf field around this transmitter tower.
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No matter where you go, a portion of the road will always ice up first.

Probably due more to geographical and meteorological influences.
 
I just spent hours with Google earth locating the towers and much to my surprise is just off the road is a big sump half full of water. This may indicate a heavy deer population seeking water is causing the high speed crashes. The road is still rediculously slippery there for some strange reason. The car computers reacting to the field is kind of freaky too.
 
quogueelectric said:
There is a 300 foot actually 2 transmission towers located halfway down a county road by me.
I have worked on this tower and there is a lot of equipment in the tower and on the tower.
My question is that over the last 10 yrs passing this tower I notice a difference in my trucks engine performance such as timing advancement and possibly transmision shift points being different as I pass the tower.
I also have noticed a large number of fatal car accidents in this particular spot in both directions. After reading a post somewhere about the extensive grounding underground at the towers base it seems as if the ground grid or whatever you call it is one half of a large capacitor plate where the transmision is occuring.
Now thinking about all of this as I drive past every day I am thinking about this huge ground grid and I am passing all of the crosses and flowers I realize that directly across the highway they had installed a huge water tower.
No better grounded structure on the planet I would think. A huge steel structure with tons of weight and very long steel pipes in contact with the earth for miles in all directions.
Does anyone think that stray electrical current crossing the ground across a highway could affect the road conditions such as icing????
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Thanks, I am glad I am not the only one that thinks of this kind of stuff as I am driving around. Dont get me started with my birds on powerlines theories.
 
AM broadcast towers usually have the most pronounced effect in the near vicinity. This is because much of the antenna is actually buried in the ground in a circle from the tower base. You can actually measure current flowing along the ground. I've even heard fences "sing" to the music. It is important to bond metal pieces together that are nearby or they will act as rectifiers. This causes them to re-radiate harmonics which can cause interference.

Higher frequencies usually have antenna patterns that have much less radiation towards the ground, though some FM and TV sites do have very high fields. This is particularly true on mountaintops where the towers are not physically tall.
 
quogueelectric said:
There is a 300 foot actually 2 transmission towers located halfway down a county road by me.
I have worked on this tower and there is a lot of equipment in the tower and on the tower.
My question is that over the last 10 yrs passing this tower I notice a difference in my trucks engine performance such as timing advancement and possibly transmision shift points being different as I pass the tower.
I also have noticed a large number of fatal car accidents in this particular spot in both directions. After reading a post somewhere about the extensive grounding underground at the towers base it seems as if the ground grid or whatever you call it is one half of a large capacitor plate where the transmision is occuring.
Now thinking about all of this as I drive past every day I am thinking about this huge ground grid and I am passing all of the crosses and flowers I realize that directly across the highway they had installed a huge water tower.
No better grounded structure on the planet I would think. A huge steel structure with tons of weight and very long steel pipes in contact with the earth for miles in all directions.
Does anyone think that stray electrical current crossing the ground across a highway could affect the road conditions such as icing????
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I had a similar case here in the Philippines where some types of vehicles stall when they get too near a transmission tower. I took emf readings at the point where most of the stalling took place and it was below WHO safety standards. I have to find that picture though. anyway, not all vehicles stall there, only some jeep models and very few others.
since we were unable to find a stalled vehicle when we were measuring, we chalked it up to some vehicle computers not shielded enough from EMF interferance.
 
The google earth picture I think solved this one for me.
The tower is to the west on a big hill. The sump is at the bottom of the hill right near the road. As you move east is the road then the water tower on the other side of the road.
Every time the temp drops you have a very humid mass of air above the sump. The air on the large hillside cools and drops down the hill effectively pushing the water saturated air mass across the road which is warmer creating a small lake effect situation as the descending air mass falls and begins to freeze across the road surface.
I will contact local authorities and maybe suggest grooved pavement or something through this area. It could be somehow aggravated by surface currents though.
I think grooved pavement would solve the accidents though this is what I saw installed in oneonta next to the river where there was a similar condition.
As for the bird ailien drones that is in annother chatroom.:smile:
 
quogueelectric said:
Does anyone think that stray electrical current crossing the ground across a highway could affect the road conditions such as icing????
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that one i'd consider very unlikely....
here's one that i learned that is even weirder....

i was designing power, data, and security for a horse barn.
(thoroughbreds. don't even ask.)

my electrical engineer, upon finding this out, wanted to know
if it was dairy or other type of barn... i said "what's the difference"?

here's the difference.... if everything is not grounded EXTREMELY well
in a dairy barn, the cows will not give milk, or will give reduced milk.
i figured i was just being twizzled, but he was dead serious. he said
that in a commercial milk barn, they will usually use a 20' chemical ground.

apparently, the problem is widespread enough that there is a firm
dedicated to the problem...

http://www.agrivolt.com/index_en.html
 
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