Electrical Safety/Trouble shooting

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I just wanted to posts some old threads on safety. Even though i may not agree with all that is said, there is still some good points made in there.


jwelectric said:
With all this talk about someone getting hurt or might get hurt when working on a multiwire circuit is doing nothing but highlighting their stupidity.

In every post that I have read and every link that has been posted I see the lack of safety on the part of the person doing the work.

Each and every time there was someone poking around in a live circuit that did not have the proper safety equipment on and it seems to me that there was no meter checking being done. I could see no safety rules being observed.

I have heard, ?what if some contacts a live neutral and is grounded??
I ask, ?Why someone would be grounding their self and working on any circuit live or not??

?What if you disconnect the neutral and it burns up some ones equipment??
Who would disconnect a neutral with out first knowing which circuit(s) is/are supplying?

Through seven pages and 64 post the only danger I have heard is human error.
I have heard of the so called electrician that just starts disconnecting with out knowing what they are disconnecting, The person that is working without PPE and the idiot that is grounding him/her self and poking around in an enclosure that contains a live circuit.
This is a clear picture of the uneducated and untrained persons that think they are an electrician and working unprofessionally.

To address the TV being burned up due to a multiwire circuit I have but one thing to say. Any electrician that is trouble shooting a dwelling unit with the main closed is NOT an electrician and has absolutely no knowledge of the safety rules for troubleshooting except what is self taught.

The only thing that I have gained from this thread is a good example that I will be using in the classroom to teach up coming electricians the proper way to trouble shoot circuits safely.
Rule one is to NEVER work an energized circuit.


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jwelectric said:
So based on the thread what you are saying is in order to check the voltage I MUST disconnect the grounded (neutral) conductor.

Now explain to me why I would need to disconnect the grounded (neutral) conductor in order to check for voltage drop.
Why would I need to disconnect anything to check the voltage?

When checking the voltage in an enclosure I WILL have my PPE on.
I WILL check the meter, check the circuit and then check the meter each and every time.

I DO NOT enter a dwelling unit and start troubleshooting any circuit while having electronic equipment in operation.
I DO NOT enter a dwelling unit and remove the panel cover with the main closed (on).
I DO NOT enter any building and assume that anything in that building is installed properly.

I DO follow NFPA 70E and the safety rules outlined in OSHA.
How do you work?

Most so called electricians who think they know what they are doing ignore these safety rules just because they have been doing electrical work for years. These are the ones who are getting hurt and start complaining about it is the fault of someone else other than their selves.
The truth is that in 99.99% of all electrical accidents could have been prevented and the person at fault is the person doing the work. They simply didn?t follow the proper safety procedures. .
 
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