Electrical Submittals

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From the submittal I've seen over the years the PM usually photocopies, or downloads and prints, cut sheets for all of the materials, fixtures, panelboards, etc. for the entire job and submits them for approval by the either or both the Architect and engineers.
 
Yes, that is what I thought. I believe you get a package(cuts) from the lighting, generator vendors etc. and then submit them for approval. Some people subit more copies than others to the eng/arch.
 
Mark clearly on the submittal the COMPLETE part# or all options you intend to supply. As simple as this may seem many do not do this and big problems can occur because of misunderstandings.
 
horsegoer said:
Whe your a PM how does the submittal process work for equipment and material.
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I think we need to clarify a PM are you talking a PM for a bidding process or a PM on the Job that is already awarded..

wireman said:
Mark clearly on the submittal the COMPLETE part# or all options you intend to supply. As simple as this may seem many do not do this and big problems can occur because of misunderstandings.
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I expect that from the engineer so I can manage the project correctly..Now if this is a bidding project I would expect clear and concise info from the designer. so the info being submitted was as clear as possible..
 
No the project has been awarded and the project manager is submitting for approval. I think you send out a bunch to the eng/arch, sometimes 10 sets of what your trying to get approved and mark for approval please return with coments and/or approval. Correct?
 
horsegoer said:
No the project has been awarded and the project manager is submitting for approval. I think you send out a bunch to the eng/arch, sometimes 10 sets of what your trying to get approved and mark for approval please return with coments and/or approval. Correct?
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Yeah, the PM sends out cuts on the wire types, receptacles, switches, circuit breakers, conduit types, conduit fitting types, etc. The other trades do the same. Hopefully when you're all done everything works. Common submittal problems arise when the HVAC contractors get approval for say 480 volt units and you've run 208 volt circuits according to the electrical drawings. Same thing has happened to us when wiring plumbing equipment. The plumber can get 208 volt pumps cheaper so he submits them instead of the 480 volt pumps and gets an approval. No one tells the EC who ran 480 volt circuits so later on there is a problem.
 
horsegoer said:
No the project has been awarded and the project manager is submitting for approval. I think you send out a bunch to the eng/arch, sometimes 10 sets of what your trying to get approved and mark for approval please return with coments and/or approval. Correct?
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Yes, usually multiple sets are submitted and approved/rejected copies are given to the GC, Arch/ Eng. firm, client, etc...

The key is reading the spec book cover to cover if there is one, looking at the fixture schedule closely and submiting what the client / engineer is asking for. We get submittals often that aren't even close to what we spec. Sure you might be able to get a Columbia troffer (not there is anything wrong w/ Columbia) for less than a Metalux but if that is what the client asked for, provide it. It really just slows the entire process down if items are rejected and then you have to re-submit anyway. Be very specific with all part #'s colors, voltage's, lamps,single phase / 3 phase equip. yada, yada ,yada.
Your supply house should be willing to help you out with this.
Good Luck!:smile:
 
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one of the things in PM is the project coordination..make sure you are getting your approvals in an order that allows you the ability to proceed with the project on a timely matter..that way when you are faced with the 480 volt AC unit and you have 240 available you have some working room and not project stop..
 
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