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roger

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As many as you want, it is a design issue, so the NEC doesn't care. In other words, the NEC doesn't address it.

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If you use some of the Lutron "Maestro" dimmers than you are limited to 10 locations, ie 8- 4 way switches.

Edited--- actually one master dimmer and 9 slave units.

http://www.lutron.com/maestro/?s=17000&t=17200

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celtic

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lowryder88h said:
Can one make an arguement as per 210.70(A)(2)(c)???
"One" has ....and "one" was completely shot down and left in the corner in a puddle of their own bodily fluids ....that "one" was yours truly...and it was a brutal beat down
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I don't have a link to that thread ...was before the forum software was "improved". The title of the thread was:
"Are 3-ways a neccessisty or a requirement"
...or something to that effect.

If someone could dig up that thread, I could relive that beating I took :D

EDIT:
I think I *may* have found it...
Are 3-way switches code or just convenience?

Come see the clown(me) stick his feet in his mouth!
LOL

Here is an excerpt/review of the festivities:
induster said:
ROFL this is the funniest thread I've read in a long time! I feel so much clearer on the subject now though.
 
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lowryder88h

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Celtic,

I thank you now, I just finished reading the past thread on this same subject, I'm now feeling violated but its agood thing that we have broad sholders. Again the NEC leaves you high and dry, it doesn't make sense not to us 3ways or 4 ways but the language is sort of ambiguous. With the cost of todays dwellings common sense says use them, wouldn't like to walk back down a set of stairs or turn around and walk to the other end of the hall to control that hallway light. Oh!!!! well that's why they make walkers.:D :D
 

donselectric

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nec dont but building code does....over 7 steps or was it 3
cant remember
it also requires smokes to be on a lighting cir
 

Dennis Alwon

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stickboy1375 said:
I am not required to install a smoke on a lighting circuit...

That use to be a requirement around here but they did away with it. The idea was if the circuit went out (your lights) you wouldn't ignore it so the smokes would get energized immediately.
 

gtm87

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im doing a job in NH right now, and the inspector told me he wants the smokes on the arc faut circuit, I dont really agree with that though.
 

celtic

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gtm87 said:
im doing a job in NH right now, and the inspector told me he wants the smokes on the arc faut circuit, I dont really agree with that though.

Why not?
210.12(B) is pretty explicit.
 

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gtm87 said:
im doing a job in NH right now, and the inspector told me he wants the smokes on the arc faut circuit, I dont really agree with that though.

In all the years I have been putting in arc faults I have had only one trip and that was my man's fault (notice I didn't take the blame). Never had one tripped by a SD or anything other than the error in installation. I'll count my blessings
 

celtic

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gtm87 said:
I would just rather have it on with hallway lights or something like that.
You could.....but then the hallway circuit MUST be AFCI protected as well. Isn't there a SD in the bedroom?
That falls into 210.12(B) language.

Nothing says you can't put the smokes, lights in hallway, and Bdrm outlets ALL on the same circuit with AFCI protection.
 

FrancisDoody

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It's a local issue in different areas

It's a local issue in different areas

In Connecticut they have ammended the code to remove smokes from the AFCI Circuit. They must be put on another circuit.
 

stickboy1375

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FrancisDoody said:
In Connecticut they have ammended the code to remove smokes from the AFCI Circuit. They must be put on another circuit.



No, all they are saying is that it is not REQUIRED to be on a AFCI, but if you choose to you can...


(Amd) 210.12 Arc-fault circuit-interrupter protection.

Exception 2: Smoke detectors shall be permitted to be supplied by branch circuits without such protection providing such branch circuits supply no other outlets within the dwelling unit bedroom.
 
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