Electrolysis

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tomfitch

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A builder and a plumber got on to me recently for bonding the copper cold water pipe to the ground rod. I was even going to bond around the electric hot water heater. They said it caused electrolysis. Does anybody have any feed back on this.

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OneWay

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Re: Electrolysis

Tell them to explain it
since they Understand the grounding requirements stipulated in Article 250. You could also reference Article Exibit 250.27 for reference. And Part III, read Article 250.52(A)(1)Metal Underground Water Pipe. You are headed in the right direction. Are they licensed electricians?
Off the record I don't see how two alloys that have identical properties and are properly bonded together can produce the eletrolysis that the guys are speaking of. :roll:

[ August 18, 2005, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: OneWay ]
 

physis

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Re: Electrolysis

Ask them to show you all the damage caused by electrolysis on all the copper pipes and bonded metal in all the other buildings that are properly grounded.
 

rattus

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Re: Electrolysis

To have electrolysis, dissimilar metals in an electrolyte must be present. Iron pipes joined to copper pipes in moist earth are prime examples.

It is the iron that suffers the damage.

Too little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
 

tom baker

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Re: Electrolysis

It does not. I have a copy of the definitive report by the american water works association "Effects of Electrical Grounding on Pipe Integrity and Shock Hazard" they built a test house in Orlando and tested many combinations of voltage and current, conclusion, no electrolysis.
However, water with a low pH (7 and under) is considered aggressive and will corrode the lead and copper from fittings and attack the natural copper oxide (blue film in pipe). The solution is to raise the pH to about 8. My municipal water is treated with sodium hydroxide (er Draino) to raise the pH.
Ask your plumber what the pH is, and if your water supplier has complied with the EPA lead and copper rule.
I also have a copy of an IAEI report done in 1944 that addresses the same question, the answer from 60 years ago, no.
 
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