mbrooke
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Brain freeze- Does the elevator go on the emergency, legally required or optional system in a building?
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electrofelon
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Elevators usually go up and down.
mbrooke
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Right, when there is power. Magic 8 ball told me legally required... but... for some reason I don't think down the road others would approve of my secret device used for all questions...
Strathead
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I assume that it is really on the discretion of the State's code and the AHJ. "Legally required" for both emergency and standby is exactly that.
Kansas Mountain
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Does the type of building impact that decision? I know I've done several buildings with elevators that have no emergency power source, including schools.
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- Illinois
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- retired electrician
The NEC only tells you how to wire something once some other code has told you what type of system supplies the elevator.
mbrooke
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Can folks point me to the right code? Or is it purely AHJ discretion?
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It should never be just an AHJ thing. I would expect building codes, life safety codes, or codes specific to the facility such as NFPA 99
Bluegrass Boy
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Do you know if your area uses IBC, or International Building Code?
Is the building considered a high rise?
It looks like it depends on how many stories, and if elevator is used for egress means.
If required, it looks like elevator machine room ventilation/AC will also be required to be powered as well, along with other requirements that, some probably would not be your responsibility, but elevator contractor instead. Design requirements.
So it may begin with building code, and NFPA, and then NEC.
I found a couple things online that hopefully will give you some kind of reference point to check. But not enough detail.
This link Is dated 2005, but discusses the IBC , and gives reference numbers to go by, if the article/ chapter numbers are still correct.
Consulting - Specifying Engineer | Elevating Emergency Power Requirements for Elevators
Consulting - Specifying Engineer - The IBC (International Building Code) is coming. In the State of Washington, all projects that obtain a building permit after July 1, 2004 will have to
www.csemag.com
mbrooke
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Alright.
What do these codes typically say? I know I have nothing specific or a state, but just roughly.
mbrooke
Batteries Included
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- United States
- Occupation
- Technician
Do you know if your area uses IBC, or International Building Code?
Is the building considered a high rise?
It looks like it depends on how many stories, and if elevator is used for egress means.
If required, it looks like elevator machine room ventilation/AC will also be required to be powered as well, along with other requirements that, some probably would not be your responsibility, but elevator contractor instead. Design requirements.
So it may begin with building code, and NFPA, and then NEC.
I found a couple things online that hopefully will give you some kind of reference point to check. But not enough detail.
This link Is dated 2005, but discusses the IBC , and gives reference numbers to go by, if the article/ chapter numbers are still correct.
Consulting - Specifying Engineer | Elevating Emergency Power Requirements for Elevators
Consulting - Specifying Engineer - The IBC (International Building Code) is coming. In the State of Washington, all projects that obtain a building permit after July 1, 2004 will have to
Yes, it does use the IBC.
8 stories?
The thing is I've seen buildings go both ways, with or without back on the elevators.
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