Equipotential plane for horse barns

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OK... Equipotential bonding per the NEC consistantly mentions concrete surfaces.....but.....what about a dirt floor in a horse stall with a waterer in one corner of the stall? ALSO.... what about an outdoor waterer where horses stand on dirt???? Now what do you do???
 
OK... Equipotential bonding per the NEC consistantly mentions concrete surfaces.....but.....what about a dirt floor in a horse stall with a waterer in one corner of the stall? ALSO.... what about an outdoor waterer where horses stand on dirt???? Now what do you do???

You either work very hard to eliminate any voltage offset, whether resulting from leakage or from EGC/remote-ground offset or you install some semblance of an equipotential plane.
 
OK... Equipotential bonding per the NEC consistantly mentions concrete surfaces.....but.....what about a dirt floor in a horse stall with a waterer in one corner of the stall? ALSO.... what about an outdoor waterer where horses stand on dirt???? Now what do you do???

So.....if the stalls and corral are all dirt....then I do't see how the equipotential bond will make a difference, considering the mesh would have to be below grade at some depth where horse hooves can't get hung in it when it is muddy. I wonder if a water bond similar to a swimming pool would work ???
 
OK... Equipotential bonding per the NEC consistantly mentions concrete surfaces.....but.....what about a dirt floor in a horse stall with a waterer in one corner of the stall? ALSO.... what about an outdoor waterer where horses stand on dirt???? Now what do you do???

No EQ plane is required in areas with dirt floors.
 
OK... Equipotential bonding per the NEC consistantly mentions concrete surfaces.....but.....what about a dirt floor in a horse stall with a waterer in one corner of the stall? ALSO.... what about an outdoor waterer where horses stand on dirt???? Now what do you do???

Kinda what I thought because NEC seems to always point to concrete but was hoping someone else has run across this.
 
So.....if the stalls and corral are all dirt....then I do't see how the equipotential bond will make a difference, considering the mesh would have to be below grade at some depth where horse hooves can't get hung in it when it is muddy. I wonder if a water bond similar to a swimming pool would work ???


I've been hired by farmers to just run #8 through everything possible in the past

yes it helps

however , thinking about equipment layout is a consideration as well

for ex, as i suspect you already know, electric fencers can take advantage of all bondings

so their proximity to say, waterers and feeders , might be an issue

~RJ~
 
I've been hired by farmers to just run #8 through everything possible in the past

yes it helps

however , thinking about equipment layout is a consideration as well

for ex, as i suspect you already know, electric fencers can take advantage of all bondings

so their proximity to say, waterers and feeders , might be an issue

~RJ~
That is almost cruel to place an electric fence near the water or food, at least for horses or cattle. They have a tendency to stay away from the fence in the first place, so you are also forcing them away from the food or water, even if it doesn't introduce other electrical problems.
 
well i agree kwired, save for it's not always intentional , i mean.....we're talking farm hands.....:) ~RJ~
 
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